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President Biden ends national emergency on southern border : Comments

By David Singer, published 29/1/2021

President Biden – in his first day in office – has put up the white flag against stopping illegal immigration through the southern border by issuing the following proclamation...

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It's taken just a few days to show what a horrible four years Americans are in for; worse if Harris takes over as predicted. The hard Left and Big Tech cheated to get rid of a good President, and they will continue cheating. The call 'God Bless America' will be replaced by God Help America.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 29 January 2021 8:29:25 AM
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Mr Singer. How long has it been illegal to seek asylum? Almost your every pf post is a pile of patent putrid puerile partisan pollywaffle propaganda! Herr Gobels looks positively amateurish beside you and your contribution to informed debate! In conclusion, let me say, Bird's fur, horse feathers and bah humbug, Sir!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 29 January 2021 9:50:05 AM
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Congratulations to the author: 607 words without mentioning "Israel" even once - well done!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 29 January 2021 1:25:14 PM
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But seriously, already Mexico is trying to turn back thousands and thousands.
It is a really serious problem and Biden seems to have just dropped
all barriers to anyone who just turns up.
You don't think ISIS will not just join the rush ?
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 29 January 2021 2:13:41 PM
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Bazz,

You mean all those central American Islamists ? God, there must be dozens of them, flying in and trying to make out they speak Spanish.

Anyway, here's a good laugh, well, a lot of good laughs really, at the End of the Trump Years:

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jan/28/trevor-noah-republican-party-unity-trump

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 29 January 2021 3:29:37 PM
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get real, over the last years they picked up a number of ISIS coming
in that way. Hezbolallah has already had an interest in getting their
people in that way and did not hide their interest.
Haven't got time to read the link at present, might comment if interesting.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 29 January 2021 3:46:56 PM
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Get real, Bazz, there must be a hundred ways for Sunni Islamists and Shi'ite groups like Hezbollah to get into the US or any other western country besides posing as 1000-mile central American hikers. They could pose as aid workers, medical staff, academics, tourists, etc., etc. - and very likely are doing just that, then laying low.

But posing as Central American peasants in their tight family groups, speaking Spanish, sounds a bit more difficult. Then trudging a thousand miles to a wall ? If they make it, of course they would be happy to 'Tear down this Wall !' But then, they have to get through the standard US entry requirements. Bugger it, why not just fly a plane into a building ? No ?

Oops, maybe we've both unwittingly provided the Islamists with an option that never occurred to them :(

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 29 January 2021 3:57:25 PM
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Ahhh, I see you do not understand.
They fly to Mexico and just mix in with those getting through, there
are no border guards there, just over/under the wire.
When large batches go through they do not stay with them for long
they just separate and keep clear.
The coyotes arrange large batches and make an attack when they know
the guards are elsewhere.
It is professionally organised.
All this is not news, it is all old hat
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 29 January 2021 7:48:30 PM
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All this is not news, it is all old hat
Bazz,
They're thinking !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 30 January 2021 8:25:25 AM
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The guys that flew those planes into those very tall buildings, dressed impeccably, had courteous manners, were well resourced and spoke fluent English!

And one or two of them were Christians!

Since then, more Americans have been slaughtered n mass murder by gun-toting Native-born, extreme right-wing extremists, at a rate of one a day!

And justified with all sorts of blatant BS! Like ISIS have migrated into southern America and are now part of a thousand-mile long caravan of Spanish speaking asylum seekers.

Why would the do that when they can just fly in on tourist or business visas!

At least that would prove they were a little more intelligent that those on the extreme right trying to bottle farts? Given that would probably be more productive than anything else they've
contributed to debate or civilised rational discourse!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:44:10 AM
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Simple Alan many of them are known, so they cannot fly in.
If they are a newby they can fly in and it is known they are there
even if they are not tied to any particular group.
Coming over the border there is no record of them and no one will be
looking for expired visa holders.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 30 January 2021 3:11:50 PM
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Biden fired a volley into America's foot !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 30 January 2021 4:11:50 PM
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Bazz,

"Coming over the border there is no record of them and no one will be looking for expired visa holders."

What ?! They will have to come through check-points, and be documented up, down and sideways, before going to a holding centre. IF they have any documents .....

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Saturday, 30 January 2021 4:15:16 PM
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I wonder when Europe shuts its borders again ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 30 January 2021 6:26:12 PM
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Joe, do you really think they come through check points ?
Why do you think they wanted to build a wall ?
The coyotes even arrange cars to pick the people up.
I am surprised they don't arrange buses, hi !
When Trump was hot to trot on the illegals they had cut back but they
are still in business and no doubt get a big fee for those with
Islamic connections.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 30 January 2021 9:48:29 PM
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Bazz,
Why don't we see any figures on how much illegal crossings have changed since that wall ?
Would they reveal that it worked ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 31 January 2021 7:11:47 AM
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Individual,

Why not ? Probably because, by definition, such numbers are impossible to know - to estimate, certainly, but not to know for sure.

But run with whatever your presuppositions tell you :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 31 January 2021 8:25:21 AM
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loudmouth2,
Ever thought that they'd know how fewer/more have been caught on the US side ? One thing would be just about certain, no-one would have crossed over the 300km of the wall ! There'd just have to be fewer by sheer logic.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 31 January 2021 9:01:39 AM
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Individual, I have not seen any figures but the legislation just
cancelled by Biden may have had an effect, otherwise why cancel it ?
There was one case of a drug cartels underground tunnel from Mexico
to the adjacent US town. Maybe you could rent it by the day.
Who knows ?

The point is known members of Hezbollah etc could enter the US secretly.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 31 January 2021 9:39:47 AM
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Individual,

2000 km of border. Presumably, any terrorists would just go around the ends of it. I wonder if any of them have thought of doing that :)

Once illegals get into the US, they are usually caught near the border, taken to detention centres, documents and either released into the community under conditions, or sent back over the Mexican border.

So yes, the US authorities might have an idea of the nationalities of people who they catch trying to get into the US. But by definition, they would really have no idea - unless they have comprehensive informer networks on both sides of the border - of how many illegals make it, or their nationalities.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 31 January 2021 9:46:01 AM
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Bazz,

Yes, the other side of the moon MIGHT be made of green cheese, and aliens may have set up secret bases there, in preparation for their invasion of Earth, in secret cooperation with Big Tech.

Possibility doesn't mean actuality. OK, more simpler, what is maybe possible isn't necessarily what is actually happening. But it's fun to speculate :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 31 January 2021 9:50:28 AM
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Bazz, they've built a tunnel that goes from a hacienda, under the wall and into a sewer on the American side. Then emerge late at night here there and everywhere. Others fly over the wall in hot air balloons. Some go via taxi as alleged day-trippers going shopping/visiting rallies etc.

I mean you cannot imagine he many have made it across under and over and continued to do so until Gorbocov at Regan's urging, tore down that wall! I mean it stopped a few and some were murdered by alleged border security as they attempted to flee from communist regimes!

We once welcomed asylum seekers with open arms! What has changed? Communism, despotic rulers, mass-murdering regimes!? Still around buddy and lots of them south of the US border! Go spend a couple of years there then see if you also are not part of that caravan?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 31 January 2021 10:07:21 AM
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