Yes, agree entirely, attempted impeachment at this late stage would only be an expensive diversion of time and resources which would be much better spent on preparing for good governance after Biden's inauguration. Furthermore, I also agree that it would risk creating martyrdom for Trump and only embolden his rioting supporters to further violence.
And as for the schadenfreude, yes, very understandable if people all around the world who've seen their democratically-elected governments overthrown as a result of US-instigated coups, do now indulge in a little pleasure at seeing their oppressor now similarly disposed. I doubt most in the US would even recognise the irony of calling this latest storming of their Capitol a 'coup'!

Bronwyn,

Bringing an immediate impeachment against Trump will neutralise him over the next couple of weeks in the lead up to Biden's inauguration and send a message to his redneck hillbilly thugs that violence will not be tolerated.

Bronwyn, can I get a photo: Smile; say "Trump's Insurrection!"

Let's gang up on Biden as they did on Trump & then see how well he'll be doing !

individual,

How many of us do you need in your gang?

I'm available on Saturdays.

This is the thing that most attracts me to The Forum: I get to meet people like you.

Maybe? but given the administration is effectively changed every 2 years with the president changed every eight for sure, that's is hollow strawman argument With other administrations elsewhere doing far worse to the point the US with all its faults, looks like the bastion of freedom it remains.

As for the 25th, should have been used within hours of the armed violence and the deaths of four people. As the house was stormed by Hr Trump's acolytes, many who were recognised and identified as known neo-Nazis!

That it wasn't, speaks volumes! Pence will be remembered as will the republicans who allowed this would-be tyrant to remain in power when he was first impeached! Allowed the abuse of power the witness tampering/quite blatant injustice. The man is out of his tree!

AS for Biden don't expect too much for this word-smith as he "reaches across the aisle" to ensure the establishment, i.e. corporation Dems and republicans continue with the sham that has been self-evident since the removal by force of arms of JFK!

Don't ever expect the Dems who effectively control both houses to outlaw voter suppression or gerrymanders, all that keeps the Republicans in power, just about anywhere, these days?

And so the sham continues as does all the other probs that are the new normal as corporate America continues to rule the free world? Where a couple of dollars worth of powder/medicine can be sold to the ever gullible US citizens for thousands!

And as far as it goes, just the tip of the iceberg of widespread corruption? Compare Switzerland, which has as many guns in private hands as America, with the USA. And the level of gun violence in either!

Wt here for our part can chart a new course and our independence if we have the courage and good sense to remove the sycophantic quislings who currently provide the Corporate world with its control here! Just don't hold your breath waiting for a hopelessly divided nation to do any of that? Which would only be possible, if ever, if all preference voting were optional!
Alan B.

Who does the Capitol Building belong to?
And what does one half of the population do when they have lost all faith in the institutions that make up their country?
And what does the Declaration of Independence have to say about it?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

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Dear Binoy,

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There seems little doubt that Captain Ahab (alias Donald the dictator) committed an impeachable offence that should be sanctioned by the Congress. Failing to do so for fear of reprisals would be a grave travesty of justice and set a dangerous precedent.

The integrity of the American institutions must be fully restored, protected and respected at all costs.

In my view, impeachment proceedings should only be aborted on the following conditions :

1. Captain Ahab (alias Donald the dictator) publicly acknowledges his own as well as his lieutenants’ and cohorts’ wrongdoings in instigating the march on the Capitol and fomenting trouble, and presents his excuses to the members of Congress, the families and friends of those persons killed during the uprising, as well as all those who suffered bodily injuries, and the entire nation

2. He acknowledges that his accusations of mass election fraud were totally unfounded

3. He recognizes, without reserve, that Sleepy old Joe won the election

4. He resolves to cooperate actively with Sleepy old Joe to assure a smooth transition

5. He personally assumes the total cost of repairs and expenses of whatever nature due to the insurrection

All the actors in the insurrection – instigators, perpetrators and victims – should fully assume their respective responsibilities, without exception.

The Republican-controlled Senate, in particular, has a very heavy burden of responsibility to assume in the impeachment proceedings – no doubt, a historic responsibility.

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embolden his rioting supporters to further violence.
Bronwyn,
Something tells me that the rioters aren't as much Trump supporters as they are supporters of mayhem & violence fuelled by the hate inciting rhetoric of Pelosi !