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The David McBride case: whistleblowing, Afghanistan and Australian war crimes : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 4/12/2020

In 2017, the material gathered by McBride became the trove of documents and revelations called The Afghan Files.

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Dan, if you have proof, like a witnessed confession, then surrender him to the local authorities.

You are never ever judge, jury and executioner! Learn to live with the other stuff. Others who've seen similar stuff did.

We're not animals nor do we defeat an enemy by resorting to their excesses.

If you are sent in to eliminate a target, with extreme prejudice? Then that is the mission. And needs to be written and signed!

All wars take lives and brothers in arms. That's the nature of armed conflict! As distressing as that might be!

Sorry for your loss!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 4 December 2020 3:18:28 PM
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We have no business in Afghanistan, and never have. The warmongers are not the front line expendables, although some of those guys are to gung-ho for their own good. The warmongers are thousands of miles away in Canberra and in their corporate offices. As for medals and citations, they are only BS to help justify the crazy actions of war.

They like pinning medals on people, pin one on McBride for doing a good job!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 4 December 2020 5:16:26 PM
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Australia has every business being in Afghanistan on account of our ANZUS alliance which states that in the event of any signatory beuing the victim of military aggression, the other signatories have an obligation to render military aid and assistance. Same for all NATO nations all of whom have sent forces to Afghanistan in compliance with their treaty obligations. Even the Swedes got in on the fun, and so too the normally wimpy Canadians.

The Afghan war is what professional soldiers would call "a lovely war" where professional soldiers who utterly despise Muslims anyway get to kill tens of thousands of the worst of them, something they are forbidden from doing in their own countries where through utter stupidity, Muslims have been allowed to immigrate.

Had we not been stupid enough to import Muslims, there would never have been any Muslim terrorism in the western world, and no reason to sort out Muslim terrorists in their hideouts and bases in Muslim countries.

I personally hope that the war lasts forever. It is the most excellent training ground for allied soldiers where new weapons are being tested on a real enemy who is worth killing, and where professional allied soldiers who have not been in a decent scrap since WW2 can get to ply their trade. Casualties on the good guys side have been trifling while casualties on the bad guys side are so bad that Allah is running out of virgins.

The cost of the war is insignificant. No matter whether soldiers and airmen are fighting or training they still need to be paid, and what better way to train soldiers to expend valuable munitions then to have them throw them in the face of our enemies?

One lesson that the Muslim terrorists are learning is that being a terrorist where our allied armed forces can get to you is a real health hazard.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 5 December 2020 3:41:37 AM
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"on account of our ANZUS alliance which states that in the event of any signatory beuing the victim of military aggression, the other signatories have an obligation to render military aid and assistance."

What a load of rubbish!

Art 3; The Parties will consult together whenever in the opinion of any of them the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened in the Pacific.

The ANZAS Treaty doesn't even cover Afghanistan.

LEGO, of the couple of billion Muslims in the world, how many do you recommend be killed?

In your opinion "kill tens of thousands of the worst of them" does that include children?

From the above its seems given the opportunity you favour killing Muslims in Australia, if so which ones and how many, and does that also include children?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 5 December 2020 5:17:17 AM
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Paul1405,
Do you think anyone killed by a child is somehow less dead ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 5 December 2020 6:17:32 AM
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AlanB

My account above is not a personal one. It was a situational account, extracted from an autobiography by a Australian Special Forces operative in Afghanistan.

The account was intended to highlight the efforts made to keep a dangerous situation from escalating into a fire fight, to achieve the same aim.

It also highlighted the tenuous existence of those in the same room if they were alerted to the SAS intrusion. These are the choices our special forces confront as “all in a days work”.

In the case of the Mÿ Lai Massacre, where the platoon pulled up for lunch break mid massacre; that act showed the suppression of empathy for fellow humans, replaced by dealing with the vagaries of who the enemy actually was.
Who in the village was friend or foe, became an impossible task to distinguish.

It then becomes easier and safer, to treat everything that moves as the enemy, as was done in Mÿ Lai.
It’s also a familiar scenario in Afghanistan, as historically in war generally.

The time consuming need for interrogation can then be dispensed with.
Massacre becomes an efficiency dictate; and who doesn’t want efficiency in their day to day life?

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 5 December 2020 8:40:52 AM
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