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US Election 2020: are the analytics correct? : Comments

By Charles Essery, published 4/11/2020

A friend runs bets for a small group of us who are interested in world politics. In 2016, I was a newbie-maverick by forecasting Brexit, the UK Election and worst of all (in friends eyes) the Trump win.

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Spot on again Prof Essery. The "Deporables" and us "climate realists" salute you. Expect some flack and insults form the luvies, hop you are wearing your hard had, stab jacket and don't drink water unless its from a sealed bottle!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 7:13:53 AM
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You get lots of fake soothsayers who only After Event (A) say they Predicted Event (A).

All one can see is the author hasn't clearly predicted whether Trump or Biden will win.

For a bolder, more useful, prediction on OLO see "Trump Tipped To Win Election" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9299&page=0
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 7:55:17 AM
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I just wonder if there is some wishful thinking here.

First of all there is Biden's big lead in the polls coupled with a very large postal vote, which will favour the Democrats. Secondly there is the COVID factor.

In Oz and NZ, the Nervous Nellie factor led voters to re-elect incumbent governments, that adopted risk-averse lockdown policies. Trump has been erratic on COVID. In particular he has played down the virus (maybe too heavily for many)and ridiculed his advisor Dr Fauci. I think this will cost him dearly, even though I personally don't favour lockdowns and other economy-destroying responses.

While I think Biden is a poor candidate (and that his VP candidate is dangerous) the reality surely must be that Trump is a very long shot.
Posted by Bren, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:00:22 AM
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"All one can see is the author hasn't clearly predicted whether Trump or Biden will win."

HUH?

The author wrote..."I have declared Trump to win.."
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:06:40 AM
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Sick of hearing this stuff, but a half an hour ago I read that Big Tech against Trump in the form of You Tube has deleted 300 pro-Trump features and advertisements.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:17:33 AM
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Well yes - there is that mhaze

Maybe the author has used the week old prediction "Trump Tipped To Win Election"

at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9299&page=0

by the illustrious "plantagenet, Thursday, 29 October 2020" already :)
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:24:42 AM
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Ask me again in two weeks. Then I will chance my arm.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 10:30:46 AM
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An excellent article with less used statistics.

Meanwhile "2020 presidential election results" Electoral votes as of 8:07pm US ET Nov. 3, 2020

Now has Electoral College "votes" Biden 85 vs Trump 61. See http://www.axios.com/election-results-2020-trump-biden-3a07f4c7-fb4d-4d62-b18b-392ff6f1eeb5.html

"We're getting the first results in the presidential election — but no clarity from the battleground states that will determine whether President Trump gets a second term or loses to former Vice President Joe Biden.

The latest: The Associated Press has declared Biden the winner in Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Virginia, Vermont and his home state of Delaware. It has called Tennessee, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky and West Virginia for Trump.

But the most critical results will come from the battleground states. The polls closed at 7pm ET in the critical swing states of Florida and Georgia."

Go Joe!
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 11:37:45 AM
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Trump will win in a landslide.

Because.

1. Previously he was a complete outsider without even the support of the Republican Party and he still won. Even former President Bush said he would not vote for Trump. Now he is the sitting President with a solid record of achievement behind him.

2. For four years the US public have been bored to death by the Democrats and their endless games where they have tried to pin something, anything, insidious on Trump and they have failed miserably. Trump was starting to look persecuted by the very forces who despise the "deplorable" white electors. Just like in 2016 the deplorables are thirsting for revenge.

3. The Democrats did nothing about the Antifa, BLM and Cancel Culture brown shirt fascist thugs who were burning police stations, attacking courthouses, looting stores, and intimidating Republican voters. Even staunch democrat voters can see Biden rule an equating to mob rule. And it does not pass notice that all of these riots and arson attacks are happening in Democrat controlled cities. No shop owner in a Republican city need board up their windows.

4. US females have traditionally voted Democrat but women also want strong law and order. The Democrats and their three monkey approach to street fascist violence is beginning to scare them

5. Every single police officer in the USA is going to vote for Trump.

6. It is incredible that the Democrats could put Joe Biden up as a candidate when every voter in the USA can see with their own eyes that the poor guy is in the initial stages of Alzheimer's disease.

7. The recent revelations about Joe's son's computer clearly display the Biden is part of the "swamp" who use political office to line their own pockets. Biden's claim that he did not know what his son was up to and did not profit himself has ben exposed as an outright lie. That the lying fake news outlets tried to suppress the whole sorry tale adds to the already deep mistrust many US citizens have for the left wing press.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 12:49:05 PM
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Let's see the final count when all the postal votes are counted! But for now, let's call it, too close to call!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 4 November 2020 3:43:38 PM
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"Plantagenet" is an insult to that great English dynasty... he should move to NY or LA and live the life of La La land.. What an arrogant plonker, just like most pseudo intellectual elitists!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 6:18:58 PM
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I had a bet with my brother on a Trump win. My reasoning was that in the most hyper-capitalistic nation on the planet self interest would prevail. I of course hoped I was wrong but the shifts in the country were too hard to ignore. For instance it was just so unlikely that it was going to wear the kind of lockdowns which Victoria has used to tame the outbreaks here. The loss of so called "freedoms" was just too big an ask and Biden posed too great a risk. That is just one example.

It is a toxicity which has lessened the country and will hasten its demise as a world power. That rot set in pre-Trump but has certainly paved the way for a populist like him. Those who celebrate him are also celebrating the dramatic diminishment of the Republic. I'm not sure it has the capacity to ever recover and Australia will have to look elsewhere for support.

Dear Alison Jane,

Keep your wings close.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 7:48:13 PM
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Whooppee dooo! Steel-rednuts, I love your verbosity to nowhere

Hippo next 4 more years!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:19:30 PM
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ps , BREAKING NEWS, THE ARTICLE THAT PLANTANENET QOUTED WAS A COMMENT HE /SHE/IT WROTE, NOT AN ARTICLE, BUT... YES FAKE NEWS... Really, do they think we are that stupid and naive... Again Hippo 4 more years!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:25:08 PM
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close election, but looks like Biden will get up
Posted by Chris Lewis, Thursday, 5 November 2020 7:28:26 AM
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Nah... this will end up in the Supreme Court and it will make Al Gore/Bush 2000 look like a sunday school bun fight.
Posted by Alison Jane, Thursday, 5 November 2020 9:48:06 AM
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Kim jong Un. the Ayatollahs, the Chinese Fascist Party, and Plantagenet are all hoping for a Biden win.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 6 November 2020 7:21:32 AM
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