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Meanwhile, back at climate change… : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 30/10/2020

I keep seeing suggestions that now we know how to deal with Covid-19 (do we?) it's time to deal with the biggest threat of all, climate change.

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Bazz,

I reckon Mon-Fri you're an AGW denier and on the weekends you fill in a Holocaust denier.

You must live a full life.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 30 October 2020 5:09:46 PM
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Added floaties to my Y2K survival kit.
Posted by jamo, Friday, 30 October 2020 6:21:08 PM
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Struth, a million deaths inside a single year from a single cause?

And the politicians, most of them are listening to the expert advice, albeit even there the deniers are screaming, hoax, conspiracy etc. Want the economy and borders reopened and the devil take the hindmost! We'll live with the obligatory collateral damage they say. After all is only the old farts who are past their use-by date, like the antiquated Don, who are in covid-19's crosshairs!?

But not it seems (they think) in the crosshairs of cancer, which takes 2+ million annually via bismuth 213, treatable cancer.

Treatable cancer which makes annual billions for big pharma? First with their toxic chemo, then even more with the palliative care that eventually kills you, as the medicos try to make your final days from mostly treatable cancer, comfortable?

Treatable with the alpha particle, miracle cancer cure, bismuth 213, as a virtually free by-product of MSR thorium. Read the literature, Children.

MSR thorium cannot meltdown, given it is designed to operate in a molten state, very safely. As was demonstrated between the fifties and the seventies at Oak Ridge Tennessee.

Ivy league economist Professor Robert Hargraves, contends in his book, Thorium cheaper than coal, that the median price of reticulated electricity, the price per KWH, could be as low as 1.98 PKWH.

And just pushes the economic argument alone on merit, rather than the fact that MSR thorium also happens to be carbon-free!

Finally, there's the fact that MSR can use nuclear waste as fuel and that that fuel could be unspent fuel we could be paid annual millions to store! Annual billions that would pay for all the requisite R+D and the build cost of a couple of dozen SMR, MSRs! And all associated infrastructure!

MSR thorium could be used in a recovery on steroids and quite massively turbocharge regionally economies, given we use the bismuth 213 created to underpin massive medical tourism in our outback!

What prevents it? Politicians serving self-interest or worse and coal lobbyists! No names no pack drill, given we know who you are!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 31 October 2020 10:26:32 AM
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There is always one Fwit that feels the need to go OTT and compare something to the Nazis or the holocaust.

Today that prize goes to the Swamp Donkey.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 2 November 2020 7:52:01 AM
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Because almost everyone believes that CO2 is the cause of "Global Warming"
Additionally tens of thousands of newly indoctrinated voters appear on
the voting rolls every year.
I am coming to the belief that the majority belief will prevail.
That is how it should be in a democracy.
So let the government finance all the solar & wind until the money runs out.
Because countries like Japan and New Zealand are too small to have a
range of wind systems to keep enough turbines spinning they will be
forced to nuclear or in NZs case thermal springs.
Australia is probably geographically big enough to do it if the money does not run out.

The most likely scenario is that the economy will collapse because of overspend on energy.
A further cause of collapse will be evacuation of buildings over three floors and the financial loss.
It will make the Corona Virus look like a pleasant picnic.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 2 November 2020 8:44:39 AM
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Alan B.,
It would be nice if Bi 213 were a miracle cancer cure, but it's not. It's merely one ingredient of a rather expensive cancer treatment, and its radioactivity ensures there are side effects. Not as bad as beta or gamma emitters, but still significant.

Palliative care isn't very profitable for anyone, let alone big pharma. And when cancer treatment fails, patients typically don't stay there long anyway.

And by the time the technology has advanced enough for thorium power to produce electricity as cheap as you say, what makes you think solar panels won't be producing it for half that cost?

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Bazz,

There's a good reason almost everyone believes CO2 causes global warming: physics!
And as for spending "until the money run out", it won't. Since 2008 the problem hasn't been too much money being spent, but too little.

Renewable energy has a very different cost to fossil fuelled power. Upfront costs are higher, but ongoing costs are much lower. And we've reached the stage where it's cheaper overall. Ultimately it will be good for the economy. Of course many people on this board are unable to comprehend that, and can't accept that costs have changed much in the last decade.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 2 November 2020 2:07:24 PM
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