Hear, hear and well said, Joe
Alan B.

the virus is killing people.
loudmouth2,
Are all these people killed by COVID-19 or with COVID-19 in their system ?

yep great to go to Victoria and wear a mask on the beach for Christmas. Make sure your grandkids have them on properly children. NSW with about the same amount of cases with far fewer restrictions (though far to many still) and next to no masks. This fear pandemic pushed by bureacrats and left leaning Premiers is just a forerunner for them to assert draconian control over the public. So many dumb enough to think that these Premiers have saved their lives. At least in Europe and England people are waking up to this madness. God help America if sleepy Joe's mob get to lock everyone down again/ I mean when a 74 year old overweight junk food loving President shakes the thing off in a couple of days the narrative is clearly exposed. Well I suppose like Cuomo our own Andrews could not protect the elderly so instead causes far more damage by locking up healthy people.

Some people just need a shock collar and the rest
of us need the remote.

Sorry, Joe. Have to repeat 99.9% of people contracting the virus do not die, and death numbers are infitesimal compared to the millions who die each year from all sorts of illnesses and diseases, with not a squeak. The relatively few who do die are old buggers like you and me, well past our three score and ten.

ttbn where did you get this "...99.9% of people contracting the virus do not die.." statistic from?

Here are the numbers for the USA : http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

If you locate the New Jersey entry you will see that is has already killed more than 0.1% (0.1851% actually) of the state's WHOLE POPULATION, not just those who've contracted the virus. And no-one anywhere that I've read has suggested that it is anywhere near herd immunity levels in NJ.

The current New Jersey number of 0.19% puts it in the same same league as the 2nd and 3rd worst flu* pandemics of modern times: the 1889-90 pandemic was 0.10 to 0.28% and the Asian flu of 1957-59 was <0.2%. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_pandemic). But remember, this virus can still potentially kill a hell of a lot more people in New Jersey before it reaches herd immunity or a vaccine is found so this number is just a minimum.

The other poignant fact to note is that the NJ rate is in the country with the world's best medical technology. And where the hospital system was/is for the most part functioning and not overwhelmed by the number of cases. This is due to their government's (somewhat tardy) policies/initiatives for handling the virus. If the virus was allowed to run freely rampant without government intervention then the health system wouldn't have been be able to cope resulting in its collapse so there would be a higher fatality rate. (ie: Many people in NJ have survived this virus solely because they had access to ventilators, drugs, etc. Without this health care they would have died and thus been another fatality statistic.)

*: I know this virus is not a flu type. But this comparison is for those who keep saying that it is nothing worse than a normal yearly flu. Those saying this are talking complete BS.