"Many psychiatrists and psychologists who have analyzed his behavior, public utterances, and tweets have unanimously concluded that Trump is a psychopath, a pathological liar, uncompassionate, narcissist, greedy, and shallow. He sees things only in black and white, and never cares to understand the nuances of any issue before him"
And that`s just for starters........

Alon Ben-Meir,
You really need to be more concise with your assertions. What you're referring to as the wreckage of Trump's legacy, you wrongly imply that it is all Trump's doing !
Yes, he does have an image problem but, this "wreckage" is the legacy of incessant sabotage by the venomous Progressives not by Trump's policies.
Don't forget for a moment that Trump won office not because of his looks, he got the support of those who share his endeavour to rid the Govt of many incompetents & corrupt within the upper political echelon & kick them off the Taxpayer funded gravy train.
People who saw their efforts wasted by these maggots have voted him in but as the media is part of the vulture club they have led a relentless campaign to save their seats on that train !
Same as here, spear-headed by 'our ABC'. !
Just answer this question please; Will President Biden's Govt tear down that wall & re-open all the other borders again to all the deadwood ? Will they re-deploy the forces that were pulled out of some war zones by trump ?

Thanks, Alon :)

I think all of us are learning a lot about extreme mental illness, given that Trumpf exhibits all of the symptoms - ALL of the symptoms - of a psychopath: he totally lacks compassion for his fellow-Americans, is obsessed with himself, his 'god-like' immunity from a disease which has killed 220,000 Americans; his looks and his supposed intelligence on every subject; his bullying and bragging; and all of that on top of his obvious incompetence.

Will he incite crack-pot right-wing groups to destabilise the coming elections, to harass anybody who wants to vote if they seem not to be Republican supporters, and to launch armed attacks on polling stations during the elections, and on Electoral Commission offices afterwards, as the vote is being counted, IF it becomes obvious that Biden is winning by a landslide ? I fear so.

One bright side is that Republican Congresspeople will abandon Trumpf in panicked attempts to shore up their own seats. The rats will abandon ship.

Only 19 days to go (our time) :) Then, hopefully, after some nasty disturbances, it's back to adult control of government business.

Joe

Could this be described as a massive form of 'insider trading' ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/stock-market-coronavirus-trump.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article&te=1&nl=coronavirus-briefing&emc=edit_cb_20201016

Not to mention a heads-up to government cronies to 'sauve qui peut' ? Bugger the American people: keep them in the dark, don't cause panic, do the Republican thing and look after yourself.

Joe

Damn, he hasn't been reelected yet and the good for nothings are already spitting their dummies. Not that they ever stopped.

Trump doesn't need to be corrupt. That's why he's hated.

Jamo,

Well, no, he's hated (or more likely held in contempt) BECAUSE he is corrupt AND incompetent AND a psychopath.

That's enough for a lot of people, but not enough, it seems, for you :)

Joe

Ateday. And Loudmouth

Jo

I totally disagree with you on Pres Trump.
He’s the true Democrat, at the moment, the so called Democrat party in America has formed a corrupt Cabal, with shady globalist corporate elites. The Biden’s are corrupted and on the take from countries who are enemies of America.

Pres Trump is acting for the ordinary people and that’s why they vote for him.
As Michael Moore the big leftist Guru in America, said in a recent video.
“THIS ELECTION WILL BE THE BIGGEST, “F..K YOU VOTE” in history” from the people to the globalist and political elites allied to the Democrat Party.

The reason PRESIDENT Trump ran for office, was because he is a true Patriot, and is trying to restore prosperity back to the people because it is being stolen away from them by this corrupt Democrat political alliance, with globalist money corruption power players.

The corporatist media hasn’t asked Joe Biden a hard question in Four years, whereas they have set out to vilify, blame and criticsize Pres Trump,

It wouldn’t matter if it wasn’t Pres Trump though and was some other candidate running against the Democrats, they would be demonised to make the people hate them in the same way.

In fact I was listening to an interview with a journalist who used to travel on the campaign plane, with the Democrat Candidate, his powerful supporters and a dozen or so reporters.

The journalists on that plane were fed political stories first hand for their Newspapers and in return, they would praise up the Democrat candidate, and set out to make any opponent the most hated person in America. Thus taking the power of the people to vote based on truth away from them.
SBS and ABC in Australia have been doing the same to Pres Trump. They always throw in that little nasty dig about Pres Trump. Although trying to appear balanced in reporting. Again never one criticism of Joe Biden in four years

Cont........If they do ask Biden a question because something has become so public they want to appear non biased, They ask the question once. Whatever Joe says, they don’t push him on it. They just accept it like it’s true.

jamo,

If you think Trump will get re-elected why not put your money where your mouth is?

Sportsbet have Biden firming to $1.40 (in the red at 5/2 on) and Trump easing to $2.80 (in the black at 7/4).

I went in early and took 5/4 on Biden so I'm very happy. All I have to do now is wait to pick up my money.

There's always Kanye West at 500/1 if your wife wants to have a fun bet. Remember Kanye? He was the one who burst into tears when reporters asked him about his political platform.

I haven't examined Trump with your razor-sharp and in depth focus! Nor do I pretend to have the expertise you refer to in your erudite anyalisis. But sadly, rather bow to your superior informed judgment, Alon.
Alan B.

'a pathological liar, uncompassionate, narcissist, greedy, and shallow.'

For the most part I'd say yes.
He comes across as ignorant and egotistical.
Probably has also been spiteful and nasty.

I'm sure he has many character flaws, some are there for all to see
- But I'm not sure he's a psychopath.

Cherful. Yeap you're right on the money honey. The sun does shine outta the President's (Superman) arse? Hey Pressie baby, turn it down a little, It's harming my X ray vision and I can't see through a damn thing!

You'll have a nice day now, y'hear.
Alan B.

Isn't it a betrayal of their professional ethics and also an impossibility to assign a patient assessment to someone they have not spent time with? Also there is the not insignificant matter of patient confidentiality.
If I had problems I would not choose any of them to consult!!
They do damage to their profession by engaging in such behaviour.

'Many psychiatrists and psychologists who have analyzed his behavior, public utterances, and tweets have unanimously concluded that Trump is a psychopath, a pathological liar, uncompassionate, narcissist, greedy, and shallow. He sees things only in black and white, and never cares to understand the nuances of any issue before him.'

and ignorant fools believe this irrational narrative.

The undemocratic Democrats will not accept it if Trump happens to win again !
Nancy Pelosi will poison herself from her own venom & Biden will get Alzheimers by then & just forget about it all !
The progressive Media will stall & go into a spiral dive with no hope of even the slighted bit of integrity recovering them !

"Isn't it a betrayal of their professional ethics..."

Yep. It's called the Goldwater Rule....
"The Goldwater rule is Section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics,[1] which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.[2] It is named after former US Senator and 1964 presidential candidate Barry Goldwater."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

But rules don't apply to these people. Trump Derangement Syndrome overcomes all ethics.

They endlessly complain that Trump doesn't play by their rules and then they merrily break, indeed eviscerate, there own standards.

Yes, it's truly observed, if it wasn't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

The funniest line in the article is this..."But out of a sense of fairness, I thought that he should be given a chance..".

Go back and read the authors articles. Self-delusion in spades.

1. "He sees things only in black and white, and never cares to understand the nuances of any issue before him." SOUNDS LIKE TRUMP'S SUPPORTERS ON THIS THREAD
_________________________

2. And to think Joe Biden's lead has grown to 10.5%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

In three weeks the vote will be clear - Bye Bye Donald.

David Frum described the Golden Golem of Greatness as a - poop throwing primate.
Exactly so!

"Many psychiatrists and psychologists who have analyzed his behavior, public utterances, and tweets have unanimously concluded that Trump is a psychopath, a pathological liar, uncompassionate, narcissist, greedy, and shallow. He sees things only in black and white, and never cares to understand the nuances of any issue before him"

And guess what? The US electorate still prefers him over Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

Trump might be many things, but at least he isn't nuts like you lefties.

For a complex psycho-social profile of the Golden Golem of Greatness why not check out the Trump Symposium (or Trump Trump Trump) featured on the Clio's Psyche psycho-history website (volume 24 #1)

It is surprising that the spotlight is not put on Joe Biden's capability or rather lack thereof.

If Biden wins, would he still be around in 4 year's time, given that he is 78 and believed to be suffering from early dementia, and not sure whether he is coming or going (The truth is that Joe Biden, the candidate, is not the Joe Biden campaign. The left will mold him like clay into anything they want. He is their useful idiot.)? If he is ruled/judged unfit, the presidency would be handed over to the far-Left Kamala Harris. Neither Biden, nor Harris inspires confidence to lead the USA forward.

Why do the crooked and the leaners hate him so much?
It's such a mystery.

the more Trump proves the regressives and lying liberal media wrong the more they hate him!

Alon, you really need to get out of your bubble and away from NY and CA. You may say that millions of Americans cringed with the Presidential debate, but out of a population of greater than 330 million, 5 million cringing is statistically insignificant.
My readings in other areas found millions who saw things the other way with candidate Biden being shown as a stumbling irrelevant old fool.
As for all of the diagnoses of the mental state of the President, for a few years I worked directly with both DSM III and DSM IV and the Psychologists and Psychiatrists that came with it.
Especially psychology, is not a science. All of their diagnoses are merely opinions and for individual patients and treating professionals there can be great contradictions in those opinions.
No ethical psych will ever give a diagnosis without spending at least two hours with their patient. Patients are also very good at feeding the treatment provider the image that they wish that will get them the outcome that they desire.
The big question that you and your ilk have to address publicly is "Will you accept a loss of Biden and the Democrat Party and not try and create havoc where ever Donald Trump as the re-relected President appears?"
If Donald Trump has caused so much damage within the US, how come greater than 50% of the population say that they are better off now than they were four years ago?
Your obsession with Donald Trump can be resolved with a good support group and a new hobby.

Alon and Loudmouth2, please keep up to date.
According to the CDC, less than 6% of the deaths attributed to Covid-19 were caused by the virus. So in real terms, the actual death toll from Covid-19 in the US so far this year is less than 13,000. Even the 220,000 is less than the usual seasonal loss of life from influenza viruses. And only a fraction of the death toll as initially being predicted by the "experts".
Remember that attempts by President Trump to block and slow the introduction and spread of the virus were over-ridden by the Governors of California and New York and their respective Mayors. Recall that Nancy Peolosi and the Mayor of NY actively went out in the streets to encourage their people to mix and celebrate Chinese New Year.
It is the Democrats who have worked hard to spread the virus and ensure that it effects more people in both direct and indirect manners.

Many doctors have studied this illness- I've heard it's called "Alon Ben-Meir Projection".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alon_Ben-Meir

But he's done some interesting work..

TRUMP CONFESSES!

Trump may be UP from his anti-Covid steroids, but don't be ALARMED! http://youtu.be/jCj6_NQQhwE

Following Trump's well-earned Downfall http://youtu.be/71MPsqS7tCk

Trump has admitted he's So Sorry, for many things, in these abject tones http://youtu.be/0BcPZR6lDlM

Trump has given himself up to Gitmo - permanent, in solitary - HURRAH!

JCS,

Do you have any sort of reference to that surprising assertion about the CDC ? Your interpretation of seems somewhat distorted, without any references. If it was applied to the entire world, then 'only' sixty-odd thousand people would have died from the virus, fewer than those killed in vehicle accidents.

Joe

Loudmouth2, Go to CDC.gov and wander around, you will find:
"For the majority of deaths where COVID-19 is reported on the death certificate (approximately 95%), COVID-19 is selected as the underlying cause of death."
Their report includes the information that "Covid-19" deaths generally include more than two co-morbidities.
Including:

"Respiratory diseases
Influenza and pneumonia (J09–J18)
Chronic lower respiratory diseases (J40–J47)
Other diseases of the respiratory system (J00–J06, J20–J39, J60–J70, J80–J86, J90–J96, J97–J99, R09.2, U04)
Circulatory diseases
Hypertensive diseases (I10–I15)
Ischemic heart disease (I20–I25)
Heart failure (I50)
Cerebrovascular diseases (I60–I69)
Other disease of the circulatory system (I00–I09, I26–I49, I51, I52, I70–I99)
Malignant neoplasms (C00–C97)
Alzheimer disease and dementia (G30, G31, F01, F03)
Other select causes of death
Diabetes (E10–E14)
Renal failure (N17–N19)
Sepsis (A40–A41)"

Yes, car crashes are certainly killing more in this country than the Covid virus. To date in Queensland this year there have been 6 deaths attributed to Covid-19 (all were patients who did have significant underlying health problems). The death toll from vehicular crashes is out of date every 24 hours and now is greater than 200.
Where the information is available, it is difficult to find any deaths in otherwise healthy people under the age of 70.
In the USofA, the death rate, even as inaccurately presented, is still around 6th or 7th when compared to some European and South African countries. The 220,000 deaths is intended to be a frightening figure to discredit President Trump in the lead up to their election.

JCS,

So, the CDC is asserting that 95 % of deaths where COVID-19 is reported on the death certificate, COVID-19 is selected as the underlying cause of death, and 5 % to some other cause of death ?

So around 5 % of deaths reported as caused by COVID-19 may not be caused by COVID-19 ?

So you would suggest that, of 220,000 deaths reported as caused by COVID-19, 11,000 of deaths may be attributed to some other cause ?

So: the more accurate figure in the US for deaths from the COVID-19 virus, as of today, is around 208,000 ?

And currently increasing at around 600-700 per day ? And perhaps increasing by 900 - 1,000 per day by November 3, given the current rise in the number of daily cases, and in the number of states where COVID-19 death numbers are increasing ?

So by Election Day, 18 days away, that total may have grown to 220,000 ?

Thanks for clarifying that point.

Joe

Loudmouth2.no. The core of the CDC report is as I showed it. The co-morbidities are what has killed the patients. The Covid-19 was a convenient addition to the Death Certificate.
As they say, less than 5% of the deaths are a direct result of the Covid-10 viral infection or it is listed as the primary causal condition.
5% of the claimed 220,000 is less than 12,000.
95% of the ~220,000 attributed to Covid-19 were not directly caused by the Covid-19 virus.
On average there are around 55,000 deaths recorded every week in the USA.
Every Death Certificate must record three causes of death. The Covid-19 is included even if the deceased had not actually been tested, but in the opinion of a health care professional who most recently attended to them showed one or more of the symptoms of the virus.
One report attests that hospitals receive Federal funding of around $3,000 per patient being treated for the influenza virus. For those being treated for Covid-19, the funding becomes ~$13,000. Those requiring intubation for the Covid-19 receive over $30,000.

Covid-19 produces covid-19 antibodies that are stil present at any post mortem. Covid-19 is a respiratory disease and the lungs do not have an inherently strong immune response.

Codi-19 deaths are usually the result of a combination of pneumonia and P.E. Pulmonary Embolism. Blood clots in the lungs.

P.E. is the cause of most sudden death in the older cohort. Underlaying morbidity always contributes, makes the elderly more vulnerable to many pathogens, including seasonal flu, gastro and covid-19.

Nonetheless, if covid-19 antibodies are present and naught else? Then the medical certificate will record the cause of death as covid-19! Hence the numbers.
Alan B.

JCS,

It would be useful if you could cite a direct quote from the CDC :)

Joe

Trump FURIOUS over Maryanne Trump’s Secret Recordings, calling him self-centered,

unprincipled liar http://youtu.be/MB3gYzrJuQQ

In case you missed it. TRUMP SKULL FLAG FOR SALE http://youtu.be/MB3gYzrJuQQ?t=3m22s

The thing to be realised is, that if Pres Trump hadn’t shut travel down from China and then Europe,
10 days after the world first became aware of the virus, that 200,000 death toll could be 3 or 4 times higher. Perhaps 600,000.

He imposed the travel ban, against the opinion of the World Health Organisation, who were still advising him
and the rest of the world, that they didn’t need to shut down their borders, because China was saying they had the virus contained.

Pelosi and Biden jumped in to grab the headlines, saying Trump was being racist, in shutting down travel from China
and saying the virus came from Wuhan.
I remember watching a video at the time of Biden saying TRUMP was over- reacting.

Of course as the body bags started to build, higher and higher in New York, because Of Democrat Mayor Cuomo’s
mishandling of lockdowns and lack of action,and putting infected people back in Nursing Homes, causing 18,000 deaths.
The Democrats changed their, “get Trump” tatics.”

CUOMO refused to use the big well equipped Medical ship, Pres Trump had sent down to New York to help him.
It was well equipped with beds,and Drs and nurses. CUOMO refused to use the ship, to boost his own political power over Trump,
rather than send the infected old people to the ship, instead of back into the nursing homes.

The Democrats and their propaganda regime style, news media, stopped talking about Pres Trump shutting down travel from China as racist,
and blamed the death toll in New York,(which was in the early months, 50% of all deaths in America,) on Pres Trumps slowness to react. Never any holding to account of Cuomo,

Loudmouth2. I'd say that "For the majority of deaths where COVID-19 is reported on the death certificate (approximately 95%), COVID-19 is selected as the underlying cause of death." Straight from the CDC website. This should be direct enough.

In case you didn't understand it, "underlying" means not a primary cause, but just happens to be another condition that the patient had at the time of their death.
The remaining 5% are the patients where Covid-19 is recognised as the primary cause of death.
As mentioned earlier,for many of the over 80's deaths, there has been no formal Covid test, simply implied if the patient had shown a recognised indicator such as an elevated temperature.

Hey, Joe, isn't it remarkable how this article has brought so many Trump Republican 'plants' out of the woodwork.
Must have hit a soft spot - just too close to the truth!

Remember a while back, Joe, when you joked that the Trump never did get the virus, just 'hoaxed it'?

Well, considering how well he has been going lately, and how quick was his recovery, I am tending to believe that he never did get the virus.

So, his 'symptoms' could well have been from the treatment he gave himself (Hydroxy?) or that the doctors gave him when he came into the Hospital 'squealing like stuck pig'?

So, a 'false positive'?

And, since then, he has refused on numerous occasions to say just when he last tested 'negative'.
Maybe he actually tested negative the day after his hospital admission?
But, is keeping it to himself - to play the 'me-tough' card.
You can fool some of the people .....
And of course swore his medicos to silence on the matter.

My, what a Showman!
Makes Bolsinaro, Putin and Kim Jong Un look like a 'babes in the wood'.

Truth will out eventually.
But, in the meantime, the Trump is really 'laying it on' as thick as the best of thieves could ever hope to.

If lying could cause a stroke, then he is long past due.
Trump has certainly taken 'rationalization' and 'sublimation' to a whole new level.

If there is any justice in the world, then on 3 November all the chickens should well and truly 'come home to roost'.

Here's hoping - for the sake of the American people, and the sanity of the rest of the world.

JCS,

Not sure how on earth you can come to your conclusion.

Joe

I think the political 'experts' are way out as per usual.
Trump wasn't elected by popularity, he was elected to prevent the progressives from continuing doing more damage to society !

yes this great deadly 'pandemic' where people don't even know they have it unless tested half the time. Egg all over the face of those with tds yet again! Well at least China gets a laugh while dictators keep up their lockdowns.

Loudmouth2. I came to that conclusion by reading the conclusions from the CDC. They state that quite clearly in their discussion and summary. Read their associated links for further clarification.
Over 95% of those whose death as been attributed to the Covid-19 virus had an average of 2.5 comorbidities.
Stepping aside from the CDC and USA, when Sweden was being lambasted for allowing the Covid-19 to surge through their population, the point was made that average life expectancy in Sweden was 81 years. The average age of those succumbing to "Covid-19" was 81. So in reality the virus was not taking out any other than those already in that demograph.
Saltpetre, one cannot test "negative" to Covid-19. There is no such test. It is either "Positive" or "Null".
I'd hope that you also recognise that over 95% of those who contract the virus have no adverse health reactions. Of the 5% who do show a reaction, less than 5% require medical intervention.
Of these, less than 5% go onto require a level such as admission to the ICU.
The POTUS was being tested as a routine and he may not have shown any of the generally accepted indicator symptoms. Millions of people have tested positive and shown no ill effects whatsoever.

I know the usual suspects are trying hard to suppress this story and therefore many of you might not have come across it, but there is breaking evidence that sleepy Joe has been on the take from the Chinese and from Burisma for years.

Its being covered in lots of places that you may not have accessed. Just do a search on "Hunter Biden emails" and you'll find plenty.

But to get started... http://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/

J.C.S. Your comment would be more correct if you had said, no immediately visible side effects!

However, we have yet to reap the long term side effects of infection even for the Asymptomatic and super speaders like kids! I mean, if you cannot discern it with the naked eye? Therefore, ipso facto, it doesn't exist, right Dr J.C.S?

We could have stopped this thing in it's tracks months ago with a complete lockdown and totally closed borders for two weeks. When even those infected would no longer be contagious after two weeks of mandatory and complete lockdown, with no exceptions! Only non compliance allows it out and evermore contagious carriers, spreading a highly infectious contagion!

[And I get that you think that us older folk are no longer of any use, therefore, a disposable commodity that is past its use by date and just numbers! You're just so human, decent and careing!]

[What a wonderful world it would be,if only we could be, just like you!]

Or with real offshore quarantine for those who returned from super spreader cruises and the like!

Border force should have ensured we'd done just that! Border control and border security is theirs! Don't have to have a medical degree to apply plain old commonsense and a level of, absolutely essential, competence!

Here's the thing, we didn't do that, shock horror, because a total shutdown was both unthinkable and thanks to geniuses just like you, undoable!

What we have left until there's a safe, effective, reliable vaccine is testing at all critical exit and entry points/borders, schools etc. With the locally developed 3 minute, 95% reliable, breath test!

And make the offshore quarantineing of those testing positive, immediate and mandatory! And allowed to return after a fortnight or as soon as 3 confirming tests prove negative, whichever is the sooner!

Alternatively, send what is left of the remaining economy and a recovery to the nearest Taxidermist! We can do one or the other! Not both! Choose, Genius.
Alan B.

Alan B. I was, like many, very concerned when the story was coming out of the long term significant damage to the internal organs of those who were infected with the Covid-19 virus. So instead of taking the word of the ABC and print media stories, I sought out and read the precipitating report. It was both disappointing and reassuring.
There had been no measured identified "permanent" adverse affects confirmed at the date of publication.
There was speculation from medical specialists who weren't actually working with the patients. The speculation was aimed only at patients who had been treated in ICU for extended periods.
In short, the hyperbole of significant health effects on anyone who may contract the virus was unfounded.
Your concern that the older generation are at greater risk must be qualified with the point that those who are in good health, and despite the images portrayed to us all when we were young and invulnerable, not everyone over 60 suffers from some potentially catastrophic malady waiting to incapacitate us at the merest hint of a nasty virus or rogue bacteria.

Hi Alan,

There are probably empty camps and facilities on places like Norfolk Island and Christmas Island (and Heard and Macquarie Islands if necessary) where all vulnerable over-81s could be compulsorily housed, until the Covid-free end of their lives. Turn 81 and you're off to an island paradise.

If they were all rounded up and sent there, the rest of Australia wouldn't have to worry, because nobody else will get the virus, and we could all (i.e. those of under 81) get back to making money, the prime purpose in life.

Joe