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Mealy-mouthed universities: academic freedom and the Pavlou problem down under : Comments
By Binoy Kampmark, published 7/8/2020Overt political opinions, notably when expressed in a manner that might threaten brands and compromise lines of funding, are being hunted down by cadres of paranoid officials.
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Posted by diver dan, Friday, 7 August 2020 9:10:52 AM
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BK seems to have finally discovered what most of us have known since universities became 'export' industries for Chinese students and came under CCP influence.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 7 August 2020 9:32:25 AM
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The vultures that the Left are, have begun to descend in ever decreasing circles !
Posted by individual, Friday, 7 August 2020 9:54:10 AM
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UQ actually issued "Freedom of Speech" talking points for staff.
The first three fibs are, "Sorry, I'm not across the details of the issues you're raising". "UQ is an active defender of freedom of speech", and "Google UQ Model Code for Freedom of Speech". You couldn't make it up. The wrecker Hoj, meanwhile, was rumoured to return to Adelaide, as Vice [sic] Chancellor there. You couldn't make that up either. Posted by Steve S, Friday, 7 August 2020 10:54:18 AM
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I think I agree wih ttbn's take on this one. And note that the Vice-Chancellor had to remind us of his principled stand on renewable energy during the 80's oil crisis. That was what, nearly fifty years ago?
But not as long as we've known about VASTLY CHEAPER, CARBON- FREE, MSR thorium and its child, bismuth 213. Bismuth 213, if we made it here, via MSR thorium, would unlock a medical tourism trade of around a million folk a year and be worth billions annually. All in foreign exchange. Indeed, much more than replace everything we now get from Chinese students! Except the barely veiled hostility and overt bullying of pro-democracy Chinese students! TBC. Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Friday, 7 August 2020 10:58:04 AM
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The swamp must be really starting to dry out or it wouldn't be possible for these large cracks to even start to appear in it's surface.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 7 August 2020 1:20:28 PM
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*... Except the barely veiled hostility and overt bullying of pro-democracy Chinese students!..*
Right here is your problem AB. So Chinese are generally evil people because there communists. And from that narrow over-simplistic view, you extrapolate out a good Chinese is one from HK? Using your logic on the subject, why not be all inclusive in the import of Chinese, and in true multicultural harmony, invite in Chinese communist who are open with their beliefs, and can actually sound out a counter argument to the scammers calling themselves democratic from HK? Don't you think your mate Andrews, from the failed southern state of Non-Victorious, is someway more honest than most, in accepting Chinese communist foreign investment? Dan Posted by diver dan, Friday, 7 August 2020 1:33:46 PM
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Hi Binoy
Another excellent article. Lucky I wrote about "Chinese Intelligence Activities In Australia" in a 2017 article http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2016/11/chinese-intelligences-great-job-in.html which included Chinese Intelligence: - using Chinese academics and students at Australian Universities - as well as Chinese Intelligence spying on Uyghur Islamic groups here. Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 7 August 2020 3:42:25 PM
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It is obvious the CCP links in universities stretches as far as Epstein's links to Hollywood, Clintons and many others in high places. And we are 'evolving' into more moral creatures so one professor once told me with a straight face.
Posted by runner, Friday, 7 August 2020 4:10:27 PM
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Universities are all about identity, and being part of a gang.
What exactly did everyone think was going to happen, when the whitecoats started identifying their privileged lives as being interconnected with Chinese money? Bunch of sellouts, I say we stop all government funding to universities for 12 months and just see where the chips fall. Just let it all fester and crumble down a little bit and have everyone run around screaming hysterically, that should end up giving us all a much better picture of what actually goes on there, when people start with the screaming, claims of discrimination, unfairness, depravity and who knows what else, when the money tap gets turned off. Well some people don't go to University. There the ones who empty your rubbish, clean your parks, streets, public toilets and transport infrastructure, and they don't give a crap about your perceived entitlements or fancy degrees. And besides, do you think we don't know all the people running around in black for ANTIFA aren't hiding their faces because they're connected to universities? They want us to defund the police. They want communism, where they are the privileged class All all of us have to toil in the fields or get marched out to be shot when there's not enough food to go around. We've all seen the left are willing to eat their own. Well I say it's time Time to throw a cat amongst the pigeons. Time to DEFUND UNIVERSITIES. - That'll stuff em. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 8 August 2020 9:46:53 AM
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AC. We did defund the universities and left them with no choice but become semi privatised corporations seeking paying customers from wherever, to stay afloat! That worked well, didn't it?
Dan. Save the gratuitous hostility and the verbal for those who deserve it! If you actually read me on Andrews, rubbished him for accepting the Chinese belt and road initiative. Not all Chinese are communists. Some are Christians, Buddhists, Muslims and inherently unlike you, decent, normal human beings. Many want democracy! One only need recall Tieniman Square and the slaughter there of democracy activists to know that. And the arrest without conviction or trial of similarly disposed HK dissidents. I get that you hate the Chinese race and climate change activists who like me, see the solution in the carbon free, nuclear option. Namely MSR thorium! Suggest you get back on the meds so you can maybe,start thinking like a rational empatetic normal human being? And save the bile for those who've earned it! Alternatively, GFY R sole! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 8 August 2020 10:58:09 AM
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Dearest AlBy.
*...Many want democracy! One only need recall Tieniman Square and the slaughter there of democracy activists to know that. And the arrest without conviction or trial of similarly disposed HK dissidents...* You highlight the point I make. That point being, what business is it of ours (Australia), what the Chinese do regarding the control of their population? Australia spends an inordinate amount of time peering over everybody else's fence, and is never short of criticism regarding the length of the grass on the other side. Invaruably that criticism equates into another flood of refugees or immigrants landing on our shores to exacerbate a housing crisis which, coincidentally assists the wealthy property investor in the reverse, by escalating property prices. And if I may be further cynical about politicians than I already am, than the crowd most assisted by "any excuse will do" high immigration levels, its them, the political class, with the most to gain. There are very selfish motives for the crocodile tears from politicians, shed for those they consider afflicted by whatever excuse for lawlessness and disobedience of these protesters. When in China, do as the Chinese do, follow the home rules. I have no sympathy at all for this hypocrisy. Dan Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 8 August 2020 1:03:40 PM
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Dan. Go to China and see how well you fare with your overtly arrogant anti-Chinese attitude there? And if you aare sent to do hard labour for around twenty years the come out thoroughly cowed and servile, we can all spit on your for your hypocrisy?
It's so easy for you to judge others you have had SFA to do with or know, from the comfort of you S.A. home and from your anonymity behind a keyboard! The blatant hypocrisy is all yours along with your usual gratuitous shite stirring without cause or justification! That said, your recant and apology is accepted. Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 9 August 2020 10:42:40 AM
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Dear Albi.
You failed to understand my post. Here is the leading question which those with a Jesus complex such as you, do appear on numerous occasions to nurture. (I think you've had a difficult childhood). Q: What business is it of ours (Australia), what the Chinese do regarding the control of their population? That is a very simple question Al, answer it. Dan Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 9 August 2020 6:21:15 PM
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Alan B.,
I wonder if pretending to be a pro-democracy Chinese student will enhance one's chance of getting a permanent residency visa allowing one an opportunity not to return to China. They enrolled in an Australian uni as a pathway to a residency visa, not for an education. Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 9 August 2020 6:35:14 PM
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Don't you just love it, when the left leaning gate post falls over and collides with the right post, taking gate and all with it.
Are we looking for sympathy here Mr Kampmark?
None from this little black duck.
It's actually quite a joy to observe the feeding frenzy turning onto itself for nourishment.
All the best on the downward spiral.
Dan