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How the idea of liberty became Liberalism : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 23/7/2020

The mechanisms of the free market were thought to be woven into the fabric of reality ie were part of God's plan for the universe.

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@runner

Your concern for the lives of the unborn is only exceeded by your disdain for the lives of the born - under Trump's deadly COVID response.

What I hear your brain-twin say? Never? http://youtu.be/d9uHhLe6WE0

What runner?

:)
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 23 July 2020 4:59:02 PM
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Meanwhile this essay describes the situation in 2020:
http://www.dabase.org/up-1-6.htm

Further reading re Narcissus
http://www.beezone.com/narcissus.html

A related essay on the origins of the situation in which we are now all trapped http://www.daplastique.com/essay/the-maze-of-ecstasy
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 23 July 2020 8:04:24 PM
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Interesting but confusing article- and complex in its deception- kudos.
I liked Malthuse and Darwin.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 24 July 2020 5:01:50 PM
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Good article, Peter - thanks!

A good balance was indeed reached in Australia as to how to run an effective, yet compassionate society.

However, the original liberty that is based on man's creation in the image of God, has been lost: the lost liberty is the freedom to live or not within a society.

Well and good that society is well-run, but choice must be respected to stay out of it and have nothing to do with it.

This is not a call for economic neo-liberalism and irresponsible tax-avoidance, because anyone who truly does not wish to be in society, would not be using its money!
Should one freely choose to live in society, then they must respect the norms and obligations of that society. BUT what is missing is - or else leave!

In ancient times, any individual who wanted to keep away from society, only had to walk away a kilometer or two to the next valley. In biblical times it became more difficult, but still, those who really wanted to stay away from society could move to the desert or another remote area and build their hermitage there where they could observe higher standards of purity. By the 19th century, following the industrial revolution, only exceptional people like Henry David Thoreau were able to escape and live on their own away from society, that too only because his friend, Emerson, legally owned the land by the Walden pond.

The tragedy is that current society has become cancerous. By that I mean that as society becomes more industrial and "efficient", instead of enjoying the newly-found efficiency, it breeds more and more people, requiring ever-increasing "efficiency" to feed them and in the process filling up every remaining spot for refuge on this planet, perhaps even beyond.

What a curse in disguise of a blessing: "Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it..." [Genesis 1:28]

The only guarantee for keeping society honest, fair and balanced, is to allow those who are unhappy with it, whatever be their reason, to vote with their feet and keep away from it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 26 July 2020 4:41:53 PM
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