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Without prejudice : Comments

By Bill Calcutt, published 29/6/2020

The global resurgence of the Black Lives Matter campaign reminds Australians of the ongoing disproportionate rate of incarceration of indigenous people in this country.

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Now, to tors.

There are many needy Australians - as we are indeed NOT all equal.
Look around. Homeless, destitute, addicted, disabled, challenged, unfortunate, unemployed, unemployable, depressed, neurotic, psychotic, pathological, cunning, amoral, deranged, vicious, Alzheimic, antisocial, decrepit, off with the fairies, PTSD'd, uneducated, hopeless.

Hence, the need for social welfare services, public health services, public education, remedial education, NDIS, affirmative action, quotas, public housing, jails, detention, mental asylums, meals-on-wheels, aged care, employment services, police, lifesavers, volunteers, charities, NGO's, Lifeline, counseling services, Social Services.

Religion or wishful thinking can NOT solve all or even many of these needs, nor a swift kick. It takes services, many, many taxpayer funded services.

Are Indigenous peoples more needy? In some instances, yes.
We are all defined by our DNA, and this foundation of life varies according to individual evolution - and much evolution is founded on circumstance - survival of the fittest means the Inuit are designed to be able to eat a lot of whale blubber, and in fact it's a necessity for them, but would send many other's cholesterol through the roof and atherosclerosis infinitum. Japanese have a problem with alcohol, supposedly. A healthy diet and lifestyle depends on your DNA. Why is there a high incidence of renal failure and glaucoma in our Indigenous? DNA perhaps, combined with diet, lifestyle, and possibly disadvantage?

A moral, inclusive society has a responsibility for the welfare of the least of its citizens. Aus is one of the few societies which takes this seriously, and has the capacity to do so.
Posted by Saltpetre, Saturday, 11 July 2020 1:21:42 PM
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Saltpetre, your right IN PRINCIPLE!
But when certain groups are quite capable of supporting themselves, physically, yet don't because the system will come to their aid and support if they don't, well I'm sorry, but that's just plain wrong, and should not be even considered or enacted.
I hear people say, 'what a bastard, I would rather these people die than reach out to them'.
Well the people I am talking about; YES!
The records will show that far too many greys are 'stealing' the money and aid intended for those who are truly entitled to receive it, and not those who believe THEY are entitled, because they believe they are the 'entitled' ones in life, and should be catered to at any expense, without rhyme or reason.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 11 July 2020 2:17:37 PM
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Dear Saltpetre,

Our country certainly has the capacity to look after
all of its citizens and that it does do better than
many other nations. We certainly need to look after our
most vulnerable - regardless of colour, race, or gender.

Regarding our Indigenous people there are so many ways
that they have made and continue to make enormous
contributions to our country. Around 120 - 150
Indigenous languages remain in daily use. The broader
Australian vernacular is loaded with hundreds of words
from Aboriginal origins. Particularly names of our animals
and plants.

Wombat, kangaroo, koala, billabong, place names like -
Bondi, Canberra, Parramatta, and so many others. We know
the role of Aboriginal people in the exploration of Australia.
The help they gave in guiding and assisting our explorers.
The work they provided to settlers. They served and defended
This country. Their war service.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders served in the
Australian Defence Forces since 1860s - serving in the
Boer War, Both World Wars right through to service in
Afghanistan. They served on the ground, in the air, even on
horseback.

Today They contribute in so many areas. From Sport, Music,
Theatre, Art, Literature, Tourism, Politics, Television,
Education, and the list goes on.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 July 2020 5:04:56 PM
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Foxy,
You are getting desperate with your last posting.
Your attempt at making the blacks out to be something worthy of recognition and acknowledgement is beyond the pale.
All that you describe is nothing but 'house keeping', to put it mildly or to even give it recognition.
So WE chose to use some names to appease them, so what, big deal.
They have their own language, again, so what, big deal.
I prefer the names our European settlers gave, you would say so what, big deal.
I would say, yes it is a big deal, because they actually did something to deserve not only taking ownership of this land and naming it and it's various locations, but they put their lives on the line to lay the foundations, and set the wheels in motion in the direction and place we find ourselves today.
Now THIS IS something to be revered, acknowledged, respected, and held in the highest regard, NOT the rubbish you just hurled out in your previous posting and generally your feigned and inane attempts at glorifying and canonising a group of people for just waking up in the morning, doing nothing of note all day, then going to sleep at night.
Oh, and the best one yet; they speak 150 languages, HAH, yeah, sure.
Your testing our patience once more.
They are lucky to speak the language of their tribe or region, NO-ONE, I repeat NO-ONE black or white, but especially black speaks 150 languages, and your attempt at trying to puit one over once again is really getting boring.
But to clarify in your stead, because you wouldn't want the truth to get in the way of winning a point, what you're supposed to say is, because they were so tribal and they did not get along, they were isolated and each tribe, over time massaged it's 'language' to be specific to them.
Over time some of them became familiar with other tribes, but no-where near 150.
Foxy, your becoming less reliable with your postings and opinions, but that's OK, because this is after-all, an OPINION forum.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 11 July 2020 6:39:32 PM
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ALTRAV,

The highest form of ignorance is when you reject
something you don't know anything about. But the
ignorant are ignorant of their ignorance.

And as for your opinion?

You cannot imagine the immensity of the shite
I do not give.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 July 2020 8:22:56 PM
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Foxy, Foxy, Foxy,

Now I know I am getting through to you, because if you really did not give a shite, you would not have responded as you just did.
You will never admit it but, by continually correcting you, it is starting to expose a little of the part of you that just might want to consider other angles and possibilities, and less of the set ideologies you have been harboring since your indoctrination.
Ah, good to see there is hope for you yet.
Keep it up.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 11 July 2020 9:59:27 PM
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