Dear Steele,

Jonathan Merritt writes in The Atlantic, April 24, 2020,
"Some of the most visible Christians in America are
failing the coronavirus test in place of love, they're
offering stark self-righteous judgement."

It's an article right on the subject of this discussion and
in my opinion - well worth a read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/christian-cruelty-face-covid-19/610477/

He sums up:

"To me Christianity is kindness, compassion, and
supernatural love. It's not fighting back, attacking
enemies, settling scores, or leveraging other people's
pain for your own advancement."

"Some of the most visible Christians in America, it seems,
need to go back to Sunday School and discover the
loving roots at the core of this great religion's
message."

Not only in America - but many self-proclaimed Christians
need to take stock of the messages they are sending out.

SteeleRedux,

<<On of the most senior leaders in the Catholic Church escapes the judgement of man's law. This enabler and in my opinion likely perpetrator is probably responsible for so much harm done to children in Australia yet even though Jesus spoke of the dire consequences for those who harm a hair on their heads he has walked free.>>

I am not a Roman Catholic, so I'm not defending the RC church on the release of Cardinal George Pell from prison. The FACTS are that he was found not guilty in Australia's High Court by a unanimous decision of the judges, 7-0,
http://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2020/04/06/australias-high-court-overturns-guilty-verdict-against-cardinal-george

You have given him your subjective assessment of being a 'likely perpetrator' when the judicial authorities found him NOT GUILTY.

Do you have a law degree that equips you to make decisions contrary to the forensic evidence in this case?

Dear Ozpen,

You said; “Do you have a law degree that equips you to make decisions contrary to the forensic evidence in this case?”

No, there was nothing contrary to the forensic evidence of the case as there was no forensic evidence to be contrary of.

The High Court expressly acknowledged that, and I quote from their judgement, “that A's evidence of the first incident did not contain discrepancies, or display inadequacies, of such a character as to require the jury to have entertained a doubt as to guilt."

They are undoubtedly extremely well versed in the law so I hardly need a law degree to concur with their position.

Now most of the Christian faith is predicated on the testimony of others. Those testimonies have to be deemed credible by believers for them to accept them.

I have found A's evidence to be deemed credible by enough people, including the 12 jurors and 7 High Court judges, for me to form a similar opinion.

However I also accept that the nature of these offences make it difficult for a burden of proof to ne met and it was no judged to have done so in this case.

Without any forensic evidence of Christ's resurrection you accept it based upon the testimonies of others. Why is your take any more legitimate than mine?

Finally to get back to your article, is God capable of doing evil?

SteeleRedux,

<<Without any forensic evidence of Christ's resurrection you accept it based upon the testimonies of others. Why is your take any more legitimate than mine?>>

Jesus' resurrection is based on historical science that leads to a reliable New Testament document. Also, when I invited Jesus Christ into my life, he came to live in me. The Apostle John explained that ‘the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world' (1 John 4:4).

<<Finally to get back to your article, is God capable of doing evil?>>

The Apostle John again: 'We heard the true teaching from God. Now we tell it to you: God is light, and in him there is no darkness' (1 John 1:5). God is incapable of doing moral evil because He is 100% goodness.

Sometimes when discussing this topic, people have raised the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 which states God does ‘create evil’. This is an unfortunate translation of the Hebrew ra, which should be translated ‘create calamity'.

Thus, God is properly said to be the author of 'evil' in this sense of calamity, but not in the moral sense.

God has created calamity in the past, e.g. Noah's flood and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. God does it through catastrophes like floods, droughts, tsunamis, cyclones, tornadoes, September 11, etc. But why?

C S Lewis wrote in 'The Problem of Pain': Pain is “God’s megaphone to rouse a deaf world” (The Problem of Pain). 'We must have ears to hear and the want to trust. If we don’t, we won’t work through pain and see his plan through it....

“God has not been trying an experiment on my faith or love in order to find out their quality. He knew it already. It was I who didn’t. In this trial He makes us occupy the dock, the witness box, and the bench all at once. He always knew that my temple was a house of cards. His only way of making me realize the fact was to knock it down', http://www.cslewis.com/pain-and-grief/

Hey OzSpen,

"However, the issues need to be discussed rationally instead of commenters making accusations against Christ and giving anti-God assertions."

Entertaining the idea that God or Adam / Eve are responsible for the outbreak of COVID-19 is not rational.
Your logic was tainted before you began, and all you've done is try to prop up the illogical thinking.

Man's will, not God's will.

"The Coronavirus is believed to have originated at a wildlife market in China's Wuhan city' and 'it is suspected that the virus crossed to humans from the pangolin'."

I told you all two months ago, anyone who believes the virus came from Wuhan fish market is an idiot, and it may not have even come from China.

"Scientists from multiple countries have published and analysed genomes of the causative agent, SARS-CoV-2, and they overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife, as have so many other emerging pathogens' (ABC News, Brisbane, Qld, 18 April 2020). Would this virus have originated without contact through 'wet markets'?"

That's only half the bloody story, yes it came from bats;
I showed you the research in my last comment.
- But after that it was engineered in a lab, and you're cherry picking the facts.
Do you think the US, Chinese and other countries are going to come clean about their bioweapons programs and deliberately engineering viruses and other biological agents?

'You and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was discovered…. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty'.

No don't worry about others using fear and death as a weapons to push forward the globalist agendas.
When COVID-19 is gone, well see which agendas push forward.
http://theconversation.com/what-is-sentinel-surveillance-and-how-might-it-help-in-the-fight-against-coronavirus-136845

WUHAN COVID-19 SYNTHETIC ORIGINS AND EVOLUTION

"The main result of this updated release is the formal proof that 2019-nCoV coronavirus is partially a SYNTHETIC genome. We proof the CONCENTRATION in a small région of wuhan New genome (300bp) of 3 different régions from HIV1 ENVELOPPE gene and 3 others from HIV2 and SIV (ENV and POL RT). All this is remarkable and bears the mark of a desire for organization of a human nature: LOGIC, SYMETRIES. In this article, we demonstrate also that there is a kind of global human hosts adaptation strategy of SARS viruses as well as a strategy of global evolution of the genomes of the different strains of SARS which have emerged, mainly in China, between years 2003 first SARS genomes and the last 2019 COVID-19 Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus isolate Wuhan-Hu-1, complete genome. This global strategy, this temporal link, is materialized in our demonstration by highlighting stationary numerical waves controlling the entire sequence of their genomes. Curiously, these digital waves characterizing the 9 SARS genomes studied here are characteristic whole numbers: the "Fibonacci numbers", omnipresent in the forms of Nature, and which our research for several decades has shown strong links with the proportions of nucleotides in DNA. Here we demonstrate that the complexity and fractal multiplicity of these Fibonacci numerical waves increases over the years of the emergence of new SARS strains. We suggest that this increase in the overall organization of the SARS genomes over the years reflects a better adaptation of SARS genomes to the human host. The question of a link with pathogenicity remains open. However, we believe that this overall strategy for the evolution of the SARS genomes ensures greater unity, consistency and integrity of the genome. Finally, we ask ourselves the question of a possible artificial origin of this genome, in particular because of the presence of fragments of HIV1, HIV2 and SIV retroviruses."

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/340100582_WUHAN_COVID-19_SYNTHETIC_ORIGINS_AND_EVOLUTION

- Better read that last bit right!

And as a side note:
Isn't the fibonacci sequence that which you claim to be Gods signature?