//I don't give two hoots if OzSpen and NNS want to have a religious view of the world. They do that because they believe in the supernatural and not in scientific and philosophical views.//

Belief in the supernatural is a philosophical view, Mr. Onion. And not an unreasonable philosophical view. The problems start when people - either intentionally or because they just don't know any better - blur the lines betwixt metaphysics and science.

//Of course they don't want evolution to be true because it is scientific proof that there is no God the Creator//

No, it isn't. For one thing, science doesn't prove things; see the works of Karl Popper. And even if it did prove things about the natural world (which it doesn't), it can neither prove nor disprove the supernatural. Science does not concern itself with the supernatural.

Their beliefs do not bother me.

All I have pointed out is that they have a religious view of the world hence their belief in the existence of God.

I told OzSpen that I have a scientific view of the world and hence do not believe in God.

What is interesting is that they want people to believe like they do that the Wuhan Bat Soup Virus pandemic is an act of God. I pointed out that this is only true if one has a religious view of the world which explains cause and effect in terms of supernatural agency.

Why do you think I seem bothered. I'm just expressing an observation on the position of people who have a religious world view.

PS Have you noticed how OzSpen and NNS are only good at preaching the gospel. Why do you think that is?

//When the Israelites were trying to escape Egypt (Exodus 7-11) and the wicked Pharaoh refused to let them go, God sent plagues. He did it at the time of Noah by sending a world-wide flood where God caused the storm in the ocean.//

Yeah, I'm not convince these are good analogies for the pandemic. When God sent the final plague to Egypt, he told the Israelites what to do so they would be 'passed over' - because God only wanted to punish the wicked Egyptians, not the Israelites. When God sent the flood, Noah was fore-warned and given blueprints for a sweet flood-proof boat - because God only wanted to punish the wicked, not Noah and his homies.

If God has sent the pandemic as punishment for the wicked, where is the benevolent umbrella of protetction for the righteous that He unfurls in scriptures? This disease seems to strike down devout, decent Christians and non-Christians alike. Sending a pandemic which indiscriminately afflicts both the holy faithful and the godless heathens does not really seem to tally with what the scriptures say about His attitude towards 'collateral damage' when dealing out divine retribution.

Foxy,

Their beliefs do not bother me.

All I have pointed out is that they have a religious view of the world hence their belief in the existence of God.

I told OzSpen that I have a scientific view of the world and hence do not believe in God.

What is interesting is that they want people to believe like they do that the Wuhan Bat Soup Virus pandemic is an act of God. I pointed out that this is only true if one has a religious view of the world which explains cause and effect in terms of supernatural agency.

Why do you think I seem bothered. I'm just expressing an observation on the position of people who have a religious world view.

PS Have you noticed how OzSpen and NNS are only good at preaching the gospel. Why do you think that is?

Mr O,

Perhaps what you don't seem to understand is that
both OzSpen and NNS - believe in the authority of the Bible
as God's revelation to humanity and in spreading the
Christian message. They believe that the only way to
salvation is through belief in Jesus Christ.

Your views are at odds with theirs.

So why continue to argue?

Foxy,

That's exactly what I have been saying.

Why continue discussing it? Simply because it is all about searching for truth and knowledge.

Or are you suggesting I become like OzSpen and NNS and go through life being an ignorant man? I spent years qualifying as a sociologist so that I would not have to go through life as an ignorant man and I refuse to go back to square one!

On the topic of God and just out of curiosity how do you define Life? In your own words, without telling me what someone else has said.