Dear runner,

You whine; "People here claiming that the God they don't believe in is being misrepresented."

Jesus was not a God but rather a gifted and extraordinary teacher who hated and exposed hypocrites. I am attempting to emulate that part of his efforts where I can and this thread is one of those places.

The disciples 'astonishment' does not come from the thought of a camel squeezing through a gate but rather the impossible scenario of a camel making its way through the eye of a sewing needle.

He couldn't have been more clear yet there are those among us who would pollute that message and give solace if not licence to the rich.

You're right on the topic of earned money runner and it's not money (a useful tool) that's the problem. But love of money clearly is!

And Steele I agree with your analysis of the prosperity teaching of Hillsong, J. C. may well have taken to those using his Father's house in this manner, with that legendary whip?

And thanks for the clarification of the needle.

If it's all talk and talk and no walk? In what way does it serve humanity or the Christian golden code? Or hate speech?

IT'S A VERY LONGBOW TO ACCUSE THE ABC OF BEING ANTI-CHRISTIAN OR EVEN LEFT LEANING! Or that anyone who advocates a flat tax is!
Alan B.

You guys are endlessly entertaining. A simple visit to a church has expanded to include talk of camels and elephants fitting through the "eye of a needle" or the metaphorical "eye of a needle", aka a man gate. I would love someone, preferably enriched by lots of 'prosperity gospel' loot, to gather us all in a tv studio, and film our discussion(s). I would accept NO declines on the invite! Love youse all.

A simple visit to a church has expanded...
askbucko,
has resulted in an opportunistic swipe at the PM.
Unwarranted & pointless !

To Mark Buckley

Good for you to check out the church and attend the service. It sounded like a fairly good one. Without listening to the sermon myself, what it sounds like is that this church starts as an encouragement to those who come there, (both the music, and the small groups of men or women, and the stories from people's lives), is friendly to newcomers and visitors and without preasure, as well as has a message to help people to strive on through tough times. It sound like a good place based on your assessment.

As for the church being part of the PM's world view? Does that service paint a bad world view? You were there and most of us weren't so you'd most likely have a better answer then the rest who didn't attend. But based on your discription it sounds like if this church is part of Morrison's world view, then it might be a positive influence for him.

Good for him, and good for you. :)

Dear individual,

An “opportunistic swipe at the PM”?

My God you lot can be the ultimate snowflakes can't you. The author mentions him almost in passing and you are having conniptions all over the place.

Would someone going to an environmental rally to get a better understanding of what drives someone like Bob Brown also be regarded as taking a swipe at him?

You are pissing in the wind and most of it is getting all over you. Time to stop.

Dear NNS,

Fundamentalists are the ultimate elitists. You are either with Christ or you are not. They do not believe other denominations like the Catholics are Christian. If you are one of them then you can be directed via sometimes quite toxic interpretations of the word to believe and behave in ways which are not all that edifying to the rest of us.