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Charlottesville, guns, Trump-phobia and 'Their ABC’s groupthink' : Comments
By Laurence Maher, published 6/3/2020Readers who are regular viewers of ABC TV news will not need to be reminded that recently the national broadcaster began skiting about how much smarter it is than all us plebs and plodders.
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Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 8 March 2020 10:21:57 AM
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SR; There's a passage in the Christian bible that states, cast ye not your pearls before swine. And good advice! What they all have a problem with are, the unvarnished truth and the facts being presented without a political bias or position!
Thank God for an impartial non-partisan ABC, and demonstrably so!Onya mate! Cheers, Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:17:41 AM
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Dear mhaze,
Mate you still fall for this time and time again. I set you up with a claim which I purposely don't backup with a reference and you fall for it every bloody time. You are a delight in so many ways. Me: “For God's sake, right wing government after right wing government have stacked the ABC board with either Liberal party sycophants like Michael Kroger or hard right caricatures like Keith Windscuttle or Janet Albrechtsen.” You: “Stacked? You mean appointed one or two people out of the seven? Stacked? What a berk. Do you even know how the board is appointed? I'll leave you to look into it (it'll do you good) but the government of the day has minimal say or no more say that the opposition.” The reference I had at the ready was this; “Documents obtained by Guardian Australia show that of the five most recent appointments, all were direct recommendations by Fifield. Although the Coalition made much of establishing a merits-based nominations process for the ABC and SBS board appointments in 2013, it has either circumvented or ignored it in recent years. Of the appointments since 2015, two did not go through the nomination panel at all; two were considered but not recommended by the panel and were still appointed by the minister; and one was deemed by the panel to be “very suitable” but withdrew before the final recommendations, only to be then urged directly by the minister to accept a place.” http://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/27/abc-board-members-appointed-by-fifield-despite-being-rejected-by-merit-based-panel Vanessa Guthrie for god's sake? Head of the Minerals Council with no media experience? Now I know you will lament 'It's from the Guardian' or 'Labour done it sir'or some such tripe. I also know in a few months time you will be spruiking this as a victory with complete disregard for the pasting you have just received but that is about all you have to cling to old boy. Perhaps I should just give you that at least. Anyway memo to mhaze: Do Your Homework! Mainly because this has been getting repetitive for a while now Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 8 March 2020 1:26:39 PM
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'R; There's a passage in the Christian bible that states, cast ye not your pearls before swine. And good advice! What they all have a problem with are, the unvarnished truth and the facts being presented without a political bias or position!'
yet to see any pearls from Steelie so no need to worry Alan. The gw religion only has fake stones. Posted by runner, Sunday, 8 March 2020 2:30:09 PM
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In our house we only watch the ABC, sometimes it's biased because all institutions run by human beings are biased, particularly in the eyes of those who are in disagreement.
The ABC only runs adds (advices??) for its own programmes so its presentations can be viewed without interruption and it has by far the best offerings on TV. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 9 March 2020 10:47:32 AM
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SR,
I'm glad you bought this up since it demonstrates my point. But first: 1. The stuff you finally dug up (at my urging) is years old. 2. It claims that 4 members of the board were appointed by the government two of which had been rejected by the review panel. 3. That's two out of eight. Stacked? 4. The government rejected the claims in these unseen papers. This whole issue arose as the media sought to circle the wagons to try to defend the utterly incompetent and very left wing Alberici. Not just the ABC mind you but the entire left leaning media. The thing is that in the battle between the board trying to take action in regards to Alberici's erroneous reporting and the left leaning journalist community, the board lost. The chairperson went and the journalist stayed. You might recall that I wrote: "Whatismore, the board has no control over editorial policy, which makes the leanings of the board membership neither here nor there." Thanks for helping me to prove that. In the meantime, I can't help but notice that you continue to run away from the truth that the ABC TV doesn't have a single right leaning presenter to offset the myriad left leaning presenters and that many of the ABC journalists see working for the ALP and/or the ABC as interchangeable vocations. I've now invited you several times to comment on this proof of ABC bias, yet you continue to avoid addressing it. As such we just have to assume that you agree with this proof of bias. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 9 March 2020 12:02:16 PM
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"the times you have gotten yourself completely cleaned up "
Well keep telling yourself that and maybe, one day, you might believe it - although I feel even you are that thick.
"For God's sake, right wing government after right wing government have stacked"
Stacked? You mean appointed one or two people out of the seven? Stacked? What a berk. Do you even know how the board is appointed? I'll leave you to look into it (it'll do you good) but the government of the day has minimal say or no more say that the opposition.
Whatismore, the board has no control over editorial policy, which makes the leanings of the board membership neither here nor there.
Now, SR, did you notice what I did there? You raised an issue which you (hilariously) thought was supportive of your claims, and I addressed it. Granted, my rebuttal probably wasn't to your liking - in SRland anything other than 100% support for your jaundiced views is to be lamented. But I did address it.
Now contrast that with the way you've utterly failed to even acknowledge, let alone address, my points concerning the lack of right wing voices on ABC TV's presenter list, and the revolving door attributes between ABC staff and the ALP.
Basically you run a mile whenever the obvious, but unpalatable, is raised. That just makes my point even more convincing.
Ponder that.