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Short of time: Julian Assange at the Westminster Magistrates Court : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 21/1/2020

The ailing WikiLeaks founder was coping as well as he could, showing the resourcefulness of the desperate at his Monday hearing.

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No one seems to be pressing the argument;
Can the US apply US laws in another country ?
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 9:51:31 AM
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As a boy, my sainted mother advised me, if you want to take any particular action, only proceed if you are prepared to face all the consequences!

Some folk believe they are above the law and can do as they please if there's a buck in it without having to face the consequences as would apply to any other citizen.

Sob, choke, my heart bleeds, Sob, boohoo. Poor Assange has been ailing for around a decade and a wonder he is still alive. Poor iddle dickums
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 January 2020 10:26:04 AM
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One country's laws never ever apply in any other sovereign nation!

That's why they need extradition treaties and even then need to have an extradition treaty so the individual who may have broken their laws can be transported there to face their courts and defend his or her actions.

One notes had Assange simply faced up like a man as Manning did! He also could have been given the presidential pardon a mentally unwell Manning received. And perhaps the reason for Assange's current mental state of health, given if his condition is real he may be pardoned but incarcerated indefinitely in a mental asylum?

Gotta give it to this intellectual giant and a well thought through (mental health) defence strategy!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 January 2020 10:37:24 AM
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1a. Why is Assange "ailing" (paragraph 1.)? Could it be Assange looked up Wikipedia to emulate the public sympathy tactics used by convicted IRA terrorist Bobby Sands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands

1b. Binoy will of course admit that Assange painting his poo so distastefully on the Embassy walls was a crib on Bobby Sands smearing poo on walls in 1978 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands#Long_Kesh_years

1c. Binoy can also apologise for Assange's intentional hunger strike (in order to look "ailing") in memory of Sands starving himself to death in 1981 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands#Death

2. Why does uttering the word "CIA"!

Mean automatically freeing Assange, OK?

Explain yourself Binoy and other sycophants who support A!

3. Remember when Assange's support group, Wikileaks, threated journalists?

WIKILEAKS THREATENS COURT ACTION - ATTEMPTING TO CENSOR JOURNALISTS' FREEDOM OF SPEECH

In a move to prevent real journalists from doing to Wikileaks what Wikileaks does every day to Democratic governments, see January 7, 2019 http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wikileaks-emails-journalists-with-97-false-and-defamatory-claims-to-avoid-in-reporting-on-founder-julian-assange/
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 11:51:53 AM
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Assange is in prison because he jumped bail. Pure and simple.

This has nothing to do with the CIA or the USA or US law.

But in order to muddy the water those of a certain leaning need to ignore the real reasons he's in prison (jumping bail while accused of rape) and invent others that might garner some sympathy from those who aren't inclined to think for themselves.

Now let's see if I've got this straight. The CIA spied on someone 50 years ago and that proves that they did it today? Well it doesn't get any more water-tight than that [sarcasm off].
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 12:06:53 PM
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Extradition was supposed to be to enable a government to get back an
offender who had left the country after committing the crime.
To stretch it to get someone who did or said something illegal in the
US but in another country is just unfair.
A US or other citizen could say something about overthrowing the US
government (sedition ?) and be dragged back to the US and sent to gaol.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 12:50:57 PM
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Sorry Mhaze, but your interpretation is wrong. Nonetheless, the extradition of Assange has to be approved by the UK in a UK court of law. And None of the self-evident BS trotted by a criminal bail jumper will alter that! Moreover, prison computers won't allow him to get access to a site that'll allow him to note symptoms then pretend to have them!

I daresay he won't fool court-appointed psychologists and will like have to face his accusers in a US court! He can always cut his wrists to delay for a month or two, but if he goes too far with this I'm too sick routine may wait out the rest of his time until boarding a plane, in a padded cell!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 January 2020 4:25:24 PM
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Apologies Mhaze and correction, my comment was a reply to Bazz, And I am sorry for the mistake.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 January 2020 4:39:56 PM
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I think they should let him out.

There is nothing to be gained anymore by either side. It's all become a vindictive exercise .

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 8:02:23 PM
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Hmmm, don't exceed 55mph or you may be pulled over by the California Highway Patrol.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 8:09:56 PM
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So if I steal from US residents I should be immune from prosecution because I live in Australia?

The lone gunmen holding up a Washington DC pizza restaurant on two(?) separate occasions and demanding they release the children, one firing a round through the ceiling, did so because of actions by Assange.

The guy is a self-aggrandising nob with absolutely no thought or concern for others. I'd be happy to see him rot in prison for smearing his faeces on the Ecuadorian Embassy walls.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 10:30:58 PM
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Again folks, Assange being in gaol has nothing, nowt, nix to do with the US. He's there because he skipped bail while being investigated for rape.

Once he's released from prison that may all change if the US seeks extradition. But as of right now, all those anxious to blame the US are simply wrong
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 10:26:13 AM
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Fester if you steal from a US visitor and you live in Australia you
must be tried in Australia.
What you are suggesting is nonsense, but that is what happened to
Assange, what he did was from Australia, he was not in the US.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 5:18:47 PM
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Dear Mhaze,

«Assange is in prison because he jumped bail. Pure and simple.»

While any reasonable person would have done the same in Assange's circumstances, the sentence for jumping bail was already fully served - so why is Assange still in prison, why is he not back with us in Australia?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 23 January 2020 4:36:16 AM
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