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Trolls, bots, bushfires and climate change : Comments

By Charles Essery, published 22/1/2020

The local BBC was claiming some fake social media pushed arson as the major factor and that this was a misinformation campaign by anti-global warming bots.

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Alan B hates Trump and the Russians, so here is some news to you. Every Country and many businesses will use Bots, Trolls (and just for Alan B) "TROTS". That's the world of social media.

I thought the real issue of the opinion piece was the dangers of not educating the populus about how to live in this man made environment. This is particularly scary when most sub-20 year olds rely on social media like Facebook for their news.
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:38:49 PM
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Its easy. Climate change made the arsonist do it.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 3:16:08 PM
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Not 2019, BUT 1828 at a blistering 53.9 °C

Back before man-made climate change was frying Australia, when CO2 was around 300ppm, the continent savoured an ideal pre-industrial climate.... RIGHT?

This is the kind of climate we are spending $10bn per annum to get back to... Right again?

We are told today's climate has more records and more extremes than times gone by, but the few records we have from the early 1800s are eye-popping.

Things were not just hotter, but so wildly hot it burst thermometers.

The earliest temperature records we have show that Australia was a land of shocking heatwaves and droughts, except for when it was bitterly cold or raging in flood.

In other words, nothing has changed, except possibly things might not be quite so hot now!

Silliggy (Lance Pidgeon) has been researching records from early explorers and from newspapers.

What he's uncovered is fascinating! It's as if history is being erased!

For all that we hear about recent record-breaking climate extremes, records that are equally extreme, and sometimes even more so, are ignored.

In January 1896 a savage blast "like a furnace" stretched across Australia from east to west and lasted for weeks.

The death toll reached 437 people in the eastern states.

Newspaper reports showed that in Bourke the heat approached 120°F (48.9°C) on three days
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 5:52:59 PM
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Links to documentary evidence (1)(2)(3)

The maximum at or above 102 degrees F (38.9°C) for 24 days straight!

Use the several links below to read the news reports at the time for yourself ..

1. By Tuesday Jan 14, people were reported falling dead in the streets.

2. Unable to sleep, people in Brewarrina walked the streets at night for hours, thermometers recorded 109F at midnight.

3. Overnight, the temperature did not fall below 103°F.

4. On Jan 18 in Wilcannia, five deaths were recorded in one day, the hospitals were overcrowded and reports said that "more deaths are hourly expected".

5. By January 24, in Bourke, many businesses had shut down (almost everything bar the hotels).

6. Panic stricken Australians were fleeing to the hills in climate refugee trains.


As reported at the time, the government felt the situation was so serious that to save lives and ease the suffering of its citizens they added cheaper train services.

What I found most interesting about this was the skill, dedication and length of meteorological data taken in the 1800s. When our climate is "the most important moral challenge" why is it there is so little interest in our longest and oldest data?

Who knew that one of the most meticulous and detailed temperature records in the world from the 1800s comes from Adelaide, largely thanks to Sir Charles Todd.

The West Terrace site in Adelaide was one of the best in the world at the time, and provides accurate historic temperatures from "Australia's first permanent weather bureau at Adelaide in 1856".

Rainfall records even appear to go as far back as 1839. Lance Pidgeon went delving into the National Archives and was surprised at what he found.

The media are in overdrive, making out that "the extreme heat is the new normal" in Australia.

You can't blame those high records on man-made global warming!
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 5:53:15 PM
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The above was sent to me in an email. Verify it for yourself !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 5:56:08 PM
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Excellent info. Yes subjective, but as I try to make some understand, that while Stats are useful, but nothing more than a tool, and definitely not the arbitrator of truth!

As someone who went out daily come rain or shine for decades to read weather station data, wind up clock work mechanisms and replace charts when my fingers where frozen stiff.

The comment that rings true to me is about those who made early measurements religiously.

The contempt the current breed of 'meteorologists' in the BoM who run models is appalling and when their models don't work, they change the data (see " RUthergate" homogenization scandal).

Thank the person who sent you the email on behalf of all you have shared it with, even the CCCers!
Posted by Alison Jane, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 6:28:15 PM
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