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Vague imminence: US policy, pre-emptive force and Qasem Soleimani : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 17/1/2020

The second arm of the provision legitimises the use of force where a state is exercising its recognised right to individual or collective self-defence.

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Armchair, the Koran "requires" the believer to take war to the kafur
and if he does not submit to Islam then kill him.
There is no permissible way that can be diluted, it would be blasphemy. Punished by death.
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them
find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)

“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you
would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until
they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs,
seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for
yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

No muslim will ever deny these verses. ISIS and others apply them.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 18 January 2020 10:54:22 AM
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Above comments seem the sort to be expected from people whose background knowledge of the issue is basically viewpoints that have long been peddled by the Western Mainstream Media. Remember, the US has been a threat to Iran ever since Iranians managed to depose their US installed puppet dictator the Shah in 1979. The Islamic Republic obviously needs to be repressive on some ways to help resist often covert efforts of the US to gain overall control of the area which would facilitate exploiting the people and plundering resources. Is also a threat to the expansion of what amounts to the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine. This is largely controlled by Ashkenazi Jews, whose ancestry long ago was from the rogue kingdom of Khazaria 1,200 km north. Not the 12 tribes of Israel of Biblical times. Zionists can only remain in power in Israel were they do not belong with continued force and outside support

General Soleimani who for good reasons has been regarded as a national hero in Iran was brutally murdered on flimsy alleged pretexts. Amounted to a serious International crime. Especially as one reason he was in Iraq was a diplomatic mission. Also to attend the funeral for over 30 Iraqi soldiers murdered by the US while in their own country defending it Seems the measured response by Iran was excellent. Caused major destruction of a main US base and some on an airport in Iraq apparently without casualties due to enough warning being given to allow personnel to shelter in bunkers. Is important to remember that the main proven guaranteed way of deterring the US from taking over countries by force when they would like to is the risk of suffering severe retaliation. Iran has developed strong capabilities for this in some respects. Especially with advanced missiles. Now it seems if the US tries another so called pre emptive strike against Iran, a high priority of the Iranian military response will be targets in Israel, where part of the push for aggression against them comes from.
Posted by mox, Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:04:31 PM
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Where's the evidence of your imagined theory mox?
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 18 January 2020 12:25:04 PM
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Mox said: area which would facilitate exploiting the people and
plundering resources.

Resources ? You got to be kidding. The only resources in the Middle east
are the dregs of the oil industry. Why do you think the Saudis are
floating Aramco ?
Persia has a long history of oppressing the Arabs & Mesopotamians.
You need to read Twilight in the Desert about resources.

Frankly, I think the US, Russia & others should leave the area and let
them totally wreck the whole area. While ever they follow Islam they
will never get beyond their present dismal state in the 7th century.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 18 January 2020 1:03:17 PM
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Hey Bazz,

I'm not going to argue your knowledge of the Koran, because I really don't know enough to say otherwise, and I'm sure you know the truth of it.
I did find an old video on Islam tonight I'd been looking for some time though, I should probably watch it again.

What The West Needs To Know About Islam | William J. Federer
http://youtu.be/-YpJjRzQDIM

I may tend to focus more on the Jewish side of the equation, but it's only because I've looked at that side more.

The Jewish side of things is exactly the same then.
They're required to make war as well, watch this video it explains it.
The Zionist Peace Problem
http://youtu.be/tFuwnH6vruA

In truth I'm just as opposed to Sharia law as much as I am to Noahide law;
- As much as I'm opposed to the Chinese idea's you mentioned some months ago whey they demand tribute.

I'm equally opposed to all of it.

I'm more of an ethical rather than a religious person.
"Everybody has the right to live however they choose so long as it does not have a negative or detrimental effect on others"
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 18 January 2020 9:00:14 PM
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[Cont]
One extra thing I forgot to mention though, is that in Albert Pike's 3 World Wars, they plan to use Islam to overthrow the West.

- And isn't that exactly what's happening, as a side result of US wars in the middle east supportive of religious wars for Israel?

- And in response to Diver Dan,

Everything mox has said is correct, (except maybe that Iran would attack Israel outright, I'm not really sure about that)
All the things I've said is correct too.

Happy to produce a page full of links to prove it all if you want.
It's about time those with blinkers on took a look at the bigger picture.

You know people can jump up and down and say Anti-Semitic or Islamaphobic as much as they want, but it won't change the fact certain things hold merit.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 18 January 2020 9:09:55 PM
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