There is a "new or is it ?" unwritten law used by Islamic terrorists
both supported and not supported by nations to kill people they just
come across at random. They get condemned with a wet lettuce.
Surely attacks by nations are not less privileged.

This guy was a murdering terrorist who killed Iranians, Iraqi;s, Americans or anyone else he didn't like. Your diatribe does nothing but show you have no experience or understanding the value of life and the fear terrorists like he invoked.

You really need to look deeply into your own eyes, before writing such stuff. Would you have mourned Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hussein, Gadafi leadership?

Binoy, have you ever thought of migrating to Iran?

Alls fair in love and war. A pretty classic ambush, that it was!

Dan.

Once more, Binoy Kampmark polishes up his image as an educated, socialite socialist, by putting the boot into every lefties favourite "great satan", the leader of the free world, and democracies greatest protector, the USA.

Binoy comes out with a yawningly legalistic argument that the USA had no right to kill an Iranian, who indirectly killed hundreds of American soldiers and wounded many more. It is an argument which might impress his own demographic group of educated naysayers who's most distinguishing feature is their compulsive psychological need to think that they are better than everybody else. They love to show their contempt for the rest of the society that they choose to live among, by always taking the polar opposite of mainstream views on everything.

But always reflexively opposing majority views can be a disadvantage in a democracy, as the election of Trump, Scomo, and Boris has plainly exhibited. Your left wing views are becoming increasingly on the nose in white, western countries as the majority of voters wake from their apathetic torpor and realise that leftism means the social self suicide of the western world.

The primary problem for you, Binoy, and all the other latte sipping, chardonnay sucking, social snobs, is that after you have destroyed the western world that you fashionably despise but prefer to live in, where are you going to go and live? I suppose you could survive in gated communities away from the crime and welfare dependent minoritis you encourage to dilute the western world's dominant cultures, within their own countries, But that is only going to work for a while.

Just like the educated young people who cheered on Lenin, Mao, Kim jong Il, Chavez and Castro, sooner or later you are going to regret your own stupidity, where you put the pandering of your ego's above the welfare of the white western civilisation who's downfall you seek as a fashion statement.

All of this was started BY Israel FOR Israel.
- And until you figure out that the US fights religious wars to further the aims of Zionism, you'll never figure anything out.

1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Jerusalem_Conference_on_International_Terrorism

"The conference aimed, in the words of its founder, Benjamin Netanyahu, "to focus public attention on the grave threat that international terrorism poses to all democratic societies, to study the real nature of today’s terrorism, and to propose measures for combating and defeating the international terror movements."[3] It was not widely reported upon at the time, and no pictures were readily available on the internet as of 2019.

The conference aimed, in the words of its founder, Benjamin Netanyahu, "to focus public attention on the grave threat that international terrorism poses to all democratic societies, to study the real nature of today’s terrorism, and to propose measures for combating and defeating the international terror movements."[3] It was not widely reported upon at the time, and no pictures were readily available on the internet as of 2019."

The unwritten history of Israel’s alliance with the Shah’s dictatorship
http://www.972mag.com/israel-shah-iran-dictatorship/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan
"The claim has been made that Yinon's article was adopted by members of the Institute for Zionist Strategies in the American administration until it was putatively taken up as a way to further American interests in the Middle East, as well as achieving the Jewish dream of a state "from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates", encompassing the majority of the Middle East, as written in the Hebrew Bible."

Retired U.S. General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned, Seven Countries In Five Years
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
http://youtu.be/z8ityb0Ips4

Armchair, the Koran "requires" the believer to take war to the kafur
and if he does not submit to Islam then kill him.
There is no permissible way that can be diluted, it would be blasphemy. Punished by death.
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them
find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)

“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you
would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until
they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs,
seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for
yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

No muslim will ever deny these verses. ISIS and others apply them.

Above comments seem the sort to be expected from people whose background knowledge of the issue is basically viewpoints that have long been peddled by the Western Mainstream Media. Remember, the US has been a threat to Iran ever since Iranians managed to depose their US installed puppet dictator the Shah in 1979. The Islamic Republic obviously needs to be repressive on some ways to help resist often covert efforts of the US to gain overall control of the area which would facilitate exploiting the people and plundering resources. Is also a threat to the expansion of what amounts to the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine. This is largely controlled by Ashkenazi Jews, whose ancestry long ago was from the rogue kingdom of Khazaria 1,200 km north. Not the 12 tribes of Israel of Biblical times. Zionists can only remain in power in Israel were they do not belong with continued force and outside support

General Soleimani who for good reasons has been regarded as a national hero in Iran was brutally murdered on flimsy alleged pretexts. Amounted to a serious International crime. Especially as one reason he was in Iraq was a diplomatic mission. Also to attend the funeral for over 30 Iraqi soldiers murdered by the US while in their own country defending it Seems the measured response by Iran was excellent. Caused major destruction of a main US base and some on an airport in Iraq apparently without casualties due to enough warning being given to allow personnel to shelter in bunkers. Is important to remember that the main proven guaranteed way of deterring the US from taking over countries by force when they would like to is the risk of suffering severe retaliation. Iran has developed strong capabilities for this in some respects. Especially with advanced missiles. Now it seems if the US tries another so called pre emptive strike against Iran, a high priority of the Iranian military response will be targets in Israel, where part of the push for aggression against them comes from.

Where's the evidence of your imagined theory mox?

Mox said: area which would facilitate exploiting the people and
plundering resources.

Resources ? You got to be kidding. The only resources in the Middle east
are the dregs of the oil industry. Why do you think the Saudis are
floating Aramco ?
Persia has a long history of oppressing the Arabs & Mesopotamians.
You need to read Twilight in the Desert about resources.

Frankly, I think the US, Russia & others should leave the area and let
them totally wreck the whole area. While ever they follow Islam they
will never get beyond their present dismal state in the 7th century.

Hey Bazz,

I'm not going to argue your knowledge of the Koran, because I really don't know enough to say otherwise, and I'm sure you know the truth of it.
I did find an old video on Islam tonight I'd been looking for some time though, I should probably watch it again.

What The West Needs To Know About Islam | William J. Federer
http://youtu.be/-YpJjRzQDIM

I may tend to focus more on the Jewish side of the equation, but it's only because I've looked at that side more.

The Jewish side of things is exactly the same then.
They're required to make war as well, watch this video it explains it.
The Zionist Peace Problem
http://youtu.be/tFuwnH6vruA

In truth I'm just as opposed to Sharia law as much as I am to Noahide law;
- As much as I'm opposed to the Chinese idea's you mentioned some months ago whey they demand tribute.

I'm equally opposed to all of it.

I'm more of an ethical rather than a religious person.
"Everybody has the right to live however they choose so long as it does not have a negative or detrimental effect on others"

[Cont]
One extra thing I forgot to mention though, is that in Albert Pike's 3 World Wars, they plan to use Islam to overthrow the West.

- And isn't that exactly what's happening, as a side result of US wars in the middle east supportive of religious wars for Israel?

- And in response to Diver Dan,

Everything mox has said is correct, (except maybe that Iran would attack Israel outright, I'm not really sure about that)
All the things I've said is correct too.

Happy to produce a page full of links to prove it all if you want.
It's about time those with blinkers on took a look at the bigger picture.

You know people can jump up and down and say Anti-Semitic or Islamaphobic as much as they want, but it won't change the fact certain things hold merit.

For Diver Dan especially: Nowadays thanks to the Internet, anyone can access a wide range of websites. Including news sites whose sources regarding some news are not the same as the Western mainstream media and/or they put a different slant on that published. Armchair Critic reckons he could put up a list of links for alternative news. Then they often have links to others so if I list a few for a start, undoubtedly some would lead to many of the same as starting with those he may suggest. eg Russia Today www.rt.com Based in Russian Federation, which is significantly different from former Soviet Union and has overseas offices including in UK and US. "Powers that be" do not like it because some citizens there obviously regard it as better and more reliable in some ways than their local news media. From Iran, probably first sites to check www.presstv.ir and www.english.farsnews.com. Others from around the Middle East include www.syrianews.cc from Syria, www.almasdarnews.com from Lebanon and a moderate site from Israel. www.haaretz.com which is largely behind a paywall.

However, for commentaries of what the west, especially the US gets up to, sometimes the most scathing comes from informed people with a lot of background experience there. Probably the best Western alternative news site to start with, which has a lot of links to others is www.globalresearch.ca. Some small websites use servers outside the US which makes it more difficult for the likes if the CIA to hack into and disrupt those they don't like. With communications nowadays, journalists can operate from anywhere and some find it expedient not to live in a country they have long been critical of. Such as the Mexican-American Editor of www.fort-russ.com Worth checking US based www.veteranstoday.com which supports interests of US military veterans and largely takes an anti war stance. More from the US which sometimes run scathing articles critical of it written by people from there with a lot of relevant background knowledge and experience. www.informationclearinghouse.info , www.unz.com and www.mintpressnews.com Also check Australian self described "rogue journalist" from Melbourne www.caitlinjohnstone.com .

No thanks, MOX. Al Jazeera is not my cup of tea. The western "mainstream media" has been left wing for so long that most people in the west completely distrusted it. Their journalists either got their news from Pravda or they simply dreamed it up after they bowed to Mecca when they prayed. Along came the brilliant Rupert Murdock who realised that there was a real gap in the market because nobody was presenting the right wing point of view at all.

CNN (Clinton News Network) was once number one but are now number 10 and falling. Fox is now number 1. I don't know where the BBC (Baathist Broadcasting Corporation) is now, but I would say it is as about as credible as Australia's ABC (All Bullsheet Corporation).

Hey mox,

"Armchair Critic reckons he could put up a list of links for alternative news."

What I actually meant was that I could probably add a list of links to substantiate all the issues you referred to in your earlier comment here.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=20695&page=0#364488

I could probably add a list of alternative news links too, but lately I've been a bit lazy, and mostly just watch a YouTube channel called 'The Last American Vagabond'
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_ClYrAtDNAGy5J0N-AwBNw

It good up to date info on M/E issues, but it doesn't give me a broader view on everything that's going on like some other shows I used to watch.

Hey LEGO,
"Along came the brilliant Rupert Murdock who realised that there was a real gap in the market because nobody was presenting the right wing point of view at all."

The bigger picture is that the globalists control both sides of the narrative and play both sides off against the middle.

As Armchair Critic says, globalists may largely control both left and right wing sides of some narratives. However, among what I am trying to increase awareness of is websites that may be small operations running on shoestring budgets which provide outlets for some investigative journalism and also publish stuff that those controlling mainstream media organisations would prefer kept hidden. These small operations can sometimes "start the ball rolling" and /or help make the mainstream media more honest.

eg Have a look at headlines for articles on www.consortiumnews.com Normally some stuff that is unlikely to appear in mainstream media. Worth noting that the founder and long time editor, the late Robert Parry was the main journalist responsible for uncovering and exposing the Iran Contra affair long ago. Another experienced investigative reporter who has been still at it recently is Seymour Hersh, who exposed the My Lai massacre in Vietnam in 1968. Then more recently a female journalist from the main paper in Sofia, Bulgaria was sent to Aleppo, Syria. Noticed there were weapons Made in Bulgaria captured from terrorists. She started investigating how they got there. As revelations apparently became embarrassing to someone with influence on her employers, she was sacked. Since has done a lot more investigation and uncovered a big arms smuggling racket in the Middle East. Worth having at least a quick look at what comes up with a Google Search for Dilyana Gaytandzhieva and/or check her website www.armswatch.com Among those who would not like what she has exposed would be the likes of those approving of the murder of Qassem Soleimani. eg Including the CIA.

So, what are their little conspiracy theories about the USA taking out Usama bin Laden, Al Zaquari, Al Baghdadi, and that Soleimani lowlife?

I suppose all of these guys were just little innocents whom this shadowy coven of "globalists" used as patsies? And they could do that because the "globalists" not only control the left side of news reportage, but the right side as well?

It was the "globalists" who were sticking limpet mines on tankers entering and exiting the Gulf. And was the "globalists" who shot down the billion dollar US Global Hawk drone in international waters, and it was the "globalists" that fired those Hobbyking technology cruise missiles from Iraq into the Aramco oil facility in Saudi Arabia?

While killing people is generally accepted as being wrong and illegal, there are always exceptions to every rule. Even in Aus, the use of deadly force to protect one's life is not illegal. Similarly, pre emptive action against aggressors or terrorists intent on harming one's citizens is legal.

That Soleimani has set up proxy militias in Iraq that were directly responsible for the deaths of 2 Americans, and was flying into Iraq was certainly a red flag that further action was planned and pre emptive action was certainly warranted.

That Binoy is a far left whinger has far more to do with his flawed assessment than UN law.

Hey mox,
"These small operations can sometimes 'start the ball rolling' and /or help make the mainstream media more honest."

That's a fair point that no-one can deny.
Better and more numerous sources, better scrutiny of the facts.

"Worth noting that the founder and long time editor, the late Robert Parry was the main journalist responsible for uncovering and exposing the Iran Contra affair long ago."

I'm not sure if you've forgotten Gary Webb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
They even made a movie about it, 'Kill the Messenger'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_the_Messenger_(2014_film)
- And it's all associated with Mena Airport, Arkansas (Clintons)

"Another experienced investigative reporter who has been still at it recently is Seymour Hersh, who exposed the My Lai massacre in Vietnam in 1968."

Not real sure about him, I have some questions whether or not his reporting is unbiased in support for Israel.
http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=2691

"Then more recently a female journalist from the main paper in Sofia, Bulgaria was sent to Aleppo, Syria."

What the hell was her name again?
I remember when that story broke.
'Silkway Airlines using diplomatic immunity', and I think the arms factory in Bulgaria was 'Arsenal', of which is connected to Maria Buttina.
I got all this info as it happened on 'Crowdsource the Truth' before George Webb and Jason Goodman had a falling out, and George went back to doing it himself.
'Dilyana Gaytandzhieva' - that's right I remember now.

Didn't know she had her own site website now.
I'm surprised she wasn't 'disappeared' after that first story broke.

Glad you added Mintpress, Whitney Webb's done some good work.
How strange. 3 Webbs. Gary, George and Whitney.

(If you watch 'The Last American Vagabond' he lists the news links for everything he talks about each day in the show description, and that's how I know I could get all the links I needed to substantiate all your earlier points.)

Hey LEGO,

"So, what are their little conspiracy theories about the USA taking out Usama bin Laden, Al Zaquari, Al Baghdadi, and that Soleimani lowlife?"

Osama might've already been dead, who knows.
If he was alive then I'd think it's likely that Pakistan ISI and the 111th infantry connected to Imran Awan who worked for Debbie Wassermann-Shultz and ran a spy ring on congress sending terabytes of data to Pakistan, knew about it.
Al Zaquari, Al Baghdadi - maybe became a liability and the US we're probably tying up loose ends.

Soleimani, this is in line with Israel foreign policy objectives, taking down Iran.

"I suppose all of these guys were just little innocents whom this shadowy coven of 'globalists' used as patsies? And they could do that because the 'globalists' not only control the left side of news reportage, but the right side as well?"

Controlling news narratives means that people are largely kept in the dark of whats really going on, and that they won't make a fuss in regards to larger 'war objectives'.
By and large the mainsteam media always supports the US (and Israels) foreign policy objectives.

And no, not the news, US neoconservative (Pro-Isreal) foreign policy, as well as Israeli and to a lesser extent Saudi foreign policy.

"It was the 'globalists' who were sticking limpet mines on tankers entering and exiting the Gulf."

It was people from the Iranian opposition, who're aligned with Israel.

"And was the 'globalists' who shot down the billion dollar US Global Hawk drone in international waters"

- It wasn't in international waters;
(But it probably was a good reason to get payback and take down an airliner.)

"and it was the "globalists" that fired those Hobbyking technology cruise missiles from Iraq into the Aramco oil facility in Saudi Arabia?"

Fairly sure it was that same Iranian opposition I spoke about earlier.
I could find you an article, but I'd have to dig for it.

Hey Shadow Minister,
Refer to my earlier comment on Page 1 of this thread to find out where 'The War on Terror' started.

No-one?

The bigger story you should all be looking into is this:

Congressmen all compromised and on the take;
Making money from not-so-covert wars and conflict energy.

- As in the oil they're stealing from Syria right now, a good example -

Why do you think the US has bases ALL over the planet?