Climate change is scary, but that's NOTHING compared to how much the Alt-Right scare me! They’re gullible conspiracy theory addicts. They unknowingly swallow and push Koch funded conspiracy stories. http://tinyurl.com/ror5w8j Rather than accept climate change, the Alt-Right prefer narratives about worldwide conspiracies to corrupt every National Academy of Science on the planet! http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

They can’t even keep their own story straight. Martin Durkin says in his "The Great Global Warming Swindle" that it's all about preventing Africa dependant on first world corporations and resource extraction rather than developing themselves, keeping Africa down. But Christopher Monckton says it's about World Communism that wants to tax the rich and develop green energy in Africa, propping Africa up! Deniers can't even agree on which conspiracy they believe in, but just believe there is one.

Yet while bitching about Communism, the irony is that fossil fuels are some of the most government subsidised companies on the planet, getting half a trillion taxpayer dollars every year! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_subsidy (And let's not forget that they 'outsource' the health bill of pollution particulates to our public health bill, effectively doubling the cost of coal fired electricity.)

But the REALLY scary part is as global warming actually starts to bite their baby-boomer lifestyles, what other myths will they swallow? If the Alt-Right are gullible enough to reject science when their economies are working and their bellies are full, what lies will they swallow when their economies are crashing and they can't afford Kentucky Fried Chicken, let alone Hooters? What madmen will they vote in? Because we've never seen failed economies vulnerable to dictators before! ;-)

This can all be avoided. Dr James Hansen says we should mass produce 115 GW of reliable clean nuclear power every year. There *are* answers to this climate challenge, and we don't have to adopt a Communist state to solve it! Indeed, France pretty much solved it by going nuclear and have some of the cleanest cheapest electricity in Europe.

Max, why is it you are one of the group who are the last to know what's going on?
The word's out, we are apparently going through a warming period, because it is part of the warming cooling cycle of the planet's natural life.
It's nothing new, it's been going on since it was formed, millions of years ago.
So all you have to do is get your head around the fact that humans did NOT cause the planet to do ANYTHING, it is too big, and we are too insignificant to affect something the size of planet earth.
As for your ranting about conspiracies and the alt-right and so on and so forth, that my boy is all in YOUR head.
There are people, bad powerful people, out there with ego's the size of football fields who have confirmed publicly and on the record, that they wish the eradication of the white race and more.
Conspiracies or not, we are constantly under attack for one thing or another, by very sick, greedy and ambitious people or groups.
If you don't want to believe it, it's your choice, but know that it is all true and if you have not come across even the most minor of incidents or articles confirming this, you are avoiding the inevitable truth.

LEGO,
>As proven in my graph displaying CO2 and global temperatures over the last 10,000 years, which you are too frightened to even look at, the earth is in another one of it's scheduled warming periods

You're a delusional twerp! The 10,000 years graphs are about MILANKOVITCH CYCLES!

Since the 1970's the 'wobbles' in the Earth's orbit and tilt have been calculated to be the cause of the Ice Ages. These wobbles change the angle of incoming sunlight, cooling the planet. They’re called Milankovitch cycles. But ice age had an extra 90% kick that the changes in sunlight could not explain. The extra warming came from CO2 feedbacks. During a glacial period CO2 was trapped in the oceans and under the ice. But as wobbles in our orbit and tilt started to warm up the oceans and land, CO2 was released, making it 90% warmer. Then the trigger was wobbles in the orbit. Now the trigger is us! Whatever the trigger, CO2 still acts as climate gunpowder.

http://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-intermediate.htm

See video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWJeqgG3Tl8

" the irony is that fossil fuels are some of the most government subsidised companies on the planet, getting half a trillion taxpayer dollars every year!"

and almost all of those subsidies are from MENA countries and other oil producing nations. They are ensuring their citizens get their own fuel below market price. Nothing to do with first world countries. If the countries giving the subsidies stopped, it'd have virtually no effect on emissions. But the standard climate alarmist playbook is to skip over that fact.

Since Max is so versed in this having written articles and made government submissions on peak oil (please, I'm trying to write this with a straight face) I'm surprised he didn't mention that fact.

'Since Max is so versed in this having written articles and made government submissions on peak oil (please, I'm trying to write this with a straight face) I'm surprised he didn't mention that fact.'

thanks Mhaze. I hope he wasn't like the dunces writing in the 1970's who got it totally wrong. The brainwashing was well and truly underway in the classroom. Or was He?

Hi Runner,
so you're familiar with peak oil?

What are the different categories of oil? Which is the easiest to mine? The cheapest to process? Which is the "low hanging fruit?"

Light sweet crude, aka, conventional oil.

Oh, and the IEA says that peaked in 2006. That happened. That's history. It means that there is still plenty of oil left, but it's slowly becoming more expensive because we've used up the "low hanging fruit." But hey, if you want to look like a moron, just be petty and bring up various failed predictions about the end of oil. (I agree there ARE quite a few, EVERY science has to start and evolve somewhere). Just ignore the basic Geology 101 that every oil student has to study, "Peak Oil", which is just a FACT when you study the behaviour of individual oil wells. Ignore the fact that CONVENTIONAL oil has already peaked.

There are plenty of alternative, dirty oils left, but we can't afford to burn them because D'uh! Climate change is real. D'uh! According to every National Academy of Science on the planet! D'uh! But you are sadly a Young Earth Creationist, and so climate science is one of those scary 'old earth' things you avoid in case it disproves Genesis. And the fact that you read Genesis that way probably means you're from Queensland and are probably an anti-vaccer as well! ;-) Which is sad, as early Genesis is largely creative metaphor written in Ancient Middle-Eastern Cosmology but NOT intended to be read as a scientific document!

Which makes me wonder how other Deniers here cope with you being a Creationist, and yet they slap you on the back for also being a Denier? I guess the enemy of my enemy must be my friend, even if that means embracing yet another form of anti-science?