Yes so true and there would have been a lot less, it the prescribed/hazard burns had been done, cool and regular. That way the habitats and food sources would not have been devastated. Been looking into background of the 500 million death figure. Its an estimate promoted by an ecologist at Sydney Uni, who is using an old WWF report which is based on the number of animals per hectare. So it seems they must have used that number and multiplied it by the hectares of this fires burn. So hopefully it will be an over estimation... still too many.

Armchair: I'm glad you think suffering is inherently bad. It means Christianity hasn't completely killed your compassion.

It's a pity that in most countries, if a human wants a peaceful death, they need to hang themselves or jump off a skyscraper.

Brutal, but less painful than cancer.

If you had the money to help Dash, why didn't you offer to pay his vet bills?

'It's a pity that in most countries, if a human wants a peaceful death, they need to hang themselves or jump off a skyscraper.

AyameTan

of course if you are in your mothers womb you don't get a say AyameTan. You can be butchered like it or not although I doubt anyone with an ounce of compassion would like it.

Why did you compare abortion to CONSENSUAL VOLUNTARY EUTHANASIA?

I don't like abortion, but it's nothing like an individual choosing to end their suffering.

Ayame, I think the concerns over whether an animal, human or otherwise is killed voluntarily or otherwise is a moot point.
I am the forums pragmatic, objective straight talking member.
I do not give one thought, let alone a second thought as to whether I should do anything to put an animal out of it's misery, unless it vocalises it's discomfort, I can't help it.
I must at this time point out, that I do not subscribe to the inane practice of "keeping pets".
Is it not against the animal liberationists mantra, that the "keeping of pets", was akin to abuse, by removing them from their natural habitat or environment and taking them away from their social groups?
I'm only asking the question because I do not care what happens to animals one way or another.
If someone is so emotionally invested in something like an animal, especially when they are in the wild, watch out, they are not of sound or mature mind.
Like that jelly brain on TV getting all emotional and showing her mental instability for all to see.
Pathetic.
You see whilst she is crying like the subjective, emotional fool that she is, there were millions of other people like truckies, coach drivers, holiday goers and just drivers in general who were nearly killed at some stage, because of bloody kangaroo's, who are rejoicing in the knowledge that there are now fewer of these "PESTS" out there trying to kill them.
So objectivity, maturity, and common sense tells us that animals are being killed/dying all the time and in much worse ways than we would even imagine.
I suggest we think outside the box.

Ah, so you don't care about consent, Altrav. Would you force your daughter to marry someone she hates?

How many biology textbooks have you read? Have you read entire academic studies on climatology, or are you too lazy to read anything except the bible and its endless "begats"?