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Charter for conservatism: the ALP campaign review : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 11/11/2019

Having Shorten as leader was a handicap. Six years which had included seeing off two prime ministers had taken a toll on popularity.

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While one can and does agree with some of this, one doesn't necessarily arrive at exactly the same conclusions.

Labor tried to be for and against coal and lost critical ground with the blue-collar element and the city-centric progressives, simultaneously.

And as always will political parties blame the salesman Shorten for not selling its policies.

Nonetheless, goes to the next election with the same albatross around its neck and will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

By not being able to let go of coal and the 12,000 CMFU workers linked to it? And why? To help out Peabody and Adani?

Coal companies the length and breadth of America are filing for bankruptcy for one simple reason, they more than anyone are selling a product clearly linked to unstoppable runaway climate change! And folk are opting for NG, which not only costs them less there, but lowers carbon emission by around 40%!

And here our pollies have, I believe, sold their souls to foreign interests coal companies and the like and have, for all practical purposes, I believe, handed their masters a captive market to exploit to the limit that the market will bear?

Bill did his best but acted as if the win was already in the bag and could have been but for one thing! TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 11 November 2019 9:07:53 AM
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Labor lost the unlosable election by trying to be for/against coal!

Can't conceive of an energy policy that doesn't include coal!

Cannot conceive of export energy incomes not hopelessly reliant on, debt-laden tax-avoiding, price gouging, profit repatriating foreign entities digging it out of our ground for pennies to us, in return, forcing average ambient temperatures up by 1C!

!C, doesn't sound like much does it?

Yet we more than most are experiencing the cumulative effect, massive bleaching events on the GBR, enduring destructive droughts the like of which we've never experienced in living memory? A hugely destructive fire season that kicks in earlier and earlier!?

Why?

Well, among other things we, union-controlled Labor/others have placed a prohibition on, for peaceful purposes, CARBON FREE, nuclear energy.

We cannot get anywhere near our targetted emissions reduction target without, reliable, dispatchable, baseload energy!

There's no AFFORDABLE option that comes anywhere near it, except the nuclear option.

Labor needs another Bob Hawke!

Why because, Bob, was visionary/a realist, on the public record advocating for Australia becoming the world's repository for nuclear waste!

And given that's the case!

Probably could have also been persuaded that we/the world need to stop burning fossil fuel for energy, need instead to transition to MSR thorium/nuclear-waste burners.

Coal mining? Yes, given we adopt MSR thorium, as many coal mining jobs as there are now, in metallurgical coal!

Quite massively complemented by other mineral mines in rare earths, lithium, cobalt graphene and beryllium among others. And required for a whole host of new applications that come with electrifying transport!

Hydrogen? Maybe, but not the world's most expensive, extracted from coal, variety!

Labor needs to stop listening to the 15% of folk who belong to unions or rather the few dozen who run those organisations and instead listen to us, we the people!

Then maybe they may have a better chance than the hopelessly divided rabble and crap ideas they are currently trying to push!

Maybe if they also actually listened!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 11 November 2019 9:51:38 AM
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Stop spending so much time meditating on your navel Binoy, trying to rational the message you don't like.

Labor lost the election by pandering to people like Alan, Belly & Mr O, welded on to both the ALP & global warming. They were trying to be too cleaver by half, trying to avoid a public decision on on the mine, until after the election. They played to those they already own, & lost the swing voter along with real workers.

Like most of us disinterested folk, I know little of Shorten, so he had no effect on my vote, although I was more likely to vote for him than the new dill Albo. In fact if I had known he helped get rid of Rudd it would have improved my chance of voting for him.

He does come across as shifty, but then the whole campaign by Labor was very shifty. It was what they weren't admitting almost more than the ratbag socialist policies broadcast, that got them very little vote around here.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 11 November 2019 12:08:00 PM
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Well...I don't have a TV no radio and don't read newspapers. On top of that list I don't vote. I'm not responsible for what happens to this once great country.

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 11 November 2019 2:51:45 PM
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You naughty boy you Dan!
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 11 November 2019 3:35:07 PM
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the truth is that the electorate is being divided more and more by the deplorables (the ones Turnbull, Zali and Shorten look down on) and the swamp who are largely overpaid bureacrats sucking on the public purse directly or indirectly through ngo's renewable fraud etc. Thankfully the libs lost a few of their swamp through dummy spits (Banks, Pyne, Bishop etc). The Libs will still have to face this divide in future elections. The swamp will continue to be given lectured by 16 year old autisitic girls with no clue and overpaid female journalist with the abc. The 'deplorables' will have to fight hard to hold on to jobs and aspirations and really are the only hope for future generations.
Posted by runner, Monday, 11 November 2019 3:58:37 PM
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