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Labor must ask serious questions on policy and values : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 22/10/2019

'Root and branch' rejection of Labor's 2019 Platform would be a mistake.

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Anthony Albanese presides over a party that has lost its way on border protection, has zero economic credibility with the electorate following insane tax policies it took to the last election, is mired in corruption allegations surrounding its apparent Chinese paymasters and chooses to side with the freaks and fantasists of Extinction Rebellion and the Greens on climate and energy policy rather than the attitudes of the voters it needs to win over.

The current foolish jabbering of the American import denigrating border protection and cackling about repatriating women who deliberately left Australia with terrorist husbands is something Albanese cannot afford. His inability or unwillingness to curb the woman says a lot about his leadership; that Kenneally, an extreme Leftist, was let loose on the public at at all, is unbelievable. All of his quota women are out of control.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 8:27:15 AM
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Yes, why the asinine aversion to a flat tax!

If it's ok for everyone to pay a flat tax on goods/services! A flat fuel tax!

What possible objection can there then be for applying the same rationale to income earned?

If you are worried that those on very low incomes may find they're paying tax and in so doing creating a hardship? That is alleviated by raising the tax-free threshold, increasing subsidised means-tested medicine, education and child endowment!

The de-privatisation of essential services is a good and worthwhile objective, but probably shouldn't be sovietized as the only other alternative to privatised monopolies!

Instead, we could and should consider replacing the privatized monopolies with cooperative capitalism that replaces the private monopolies with employee operated co-ops!?

Co-ops were the only private enterprise, free-market model, that almost alone survived the Great depression largely intact!

And because they are the most efficient and productive!

As a bonus keep far more of OUR money here working for us in OUR economy, allowing one dollar to do the work of seven or more, as the first consequence! Via the usual economic flow on factors, creating jobs and opportunity in the process!

Many could be created via government facilitation and off-budget funding! And as such would allow us to re-industrialize and including in the regions and rural environs!

I understand that Labor is anal-retentive/averse to new ideas and a departure from the traditional union/Labor meld! This has to change given it gives the unions, 15% of the community, too much say on Labor policy/direction! As long as Labor chooses to allow this to continue? They will find they are largely controlled on energy policy by 12,000 CMUF members, as to their choice going forward on their preferred energy policy!

I mean, why should just 12,000 CMUF folks have a say over 25 million!?

When you can answer that question and still claim to be democratising Labor!

You may regain some greater popularity than you have now!

But particularly when climate rebels get their turn at the ballot box!

TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 22 October 2019 8:52:24 AM
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The removal of negative gearing was and remains worthwhile! But should only cut in on houses owned above five. This would exclude all nurses, firies and policemen from the net! And blow the objection arguments out of the water!

Also, Labor need to stick to their guns on not giving tax breaks to folk not paying tax! It was and remains completely unsustainable!

Could offset some of the objections to this by raising the assets test and allowed income earned by real pensioners!

Proscribed pensions should cease to be measured as actual pensions when they and all other income exceed $50,000 P.A. The family home could also be included in the assets test if that limit was raised by half a million!?

We do face a predictable, very near future, where there will be more retirees than taxpayers! And means compelled change and all benefits, means-tested!

These measures would, among other things, allow housing to become progressively more affordable and still pass the pub test, fairness model!

Finally, we need a leader that can argue passionately with genuine belief for these and other GENUINE social reforms and with them, return to the egalitarian and debt-free Australia that was our home when my parents were still young adults!

Even the commies among us, Tristan, must be able to see, we can't stay on the current path we're on!
TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 22 October 2019 9:20:15 AM
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One of Labor's excuses for their unexpected election loss was that they took to many policies' to the contest.

Now there's a sad delusion. If they had been good policies they would have romped in. As economist Peter Smith says, Donald Trump took a truck load of policies to the election, and the electorate went for them because they were good.

Making daft comments about 'too many policies' - and believing it! - is just one of the things that will keep them in opposition. As Smith says, "Itís simply a deflection from the sheer awfulness of their policies to blame our incapacity to take in their multiplicity."

Apart from stupid policies, the ALP has clearly abondoned its traditional voter base for the Green inner city extreme Left
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 9:39:25 AM
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Tristan,

Being a neo marxist I know that you must be really disappointed at the solid rejection Labor and its policies at an election that was supposedly a shoo in.

The high taxing and high spending policies along with the ridiculously expensive climate change policy was certain to affect pretty much everyone. The problem wasn't that the voters didn't understand Labor's policies, it was that they did.

Labor getting only 1 vote in 3 after the liberal problems shows how badly they were perceived, and that Albo's refusal to reconsider will only put labor in opposition for yet another term.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 11:00:22 AM
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I am starting to wonder if Tristan might actually be a liberal plant.

With his advocacy of the far left ratbaggery he must surely encourage some lesser ratbags to push Labor even further left than it already is. Even if it doesn't it must surely warn many of the danger when those with such Marxist ideas are members of the organisation.

Could it be that ideas such as Tristans are actually the unstated objectives of Labor if we are stupid enough to elect them again?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 11:33:18 AM
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