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Labor must ask serious questions on policy and values : Comments

By Tristan Ewins, published 22/10/2019

'Root and branch' rejection of Labor's 2019 Platform would be a mistake.

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My aim is to raise tax to the OECD average to make possible Medicare Dental, National Aged Care Insurance, reform of pensions , reform of health including mental health, and efficient public provision of public infrastructure. And for that to be achieved incrementally. I am strongly influenced by Marxism personally, but these policies could just as easily be supported by progressive liberals and traditional social democrats. Soon the Aged Care Royal Commission will come down with its findings. What would either Party do without the revenue to fund the necessary reforms?
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:13:13 PM
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We know that Labor is considering 'moving to the Centre' (ie: to the old neo-liberal consensus). And that - as opposed to 'Labor moving to the Left' is the main problem. I am promoting policies that would be 'non controversial' in many parts of Europe. Also consider Vienna with 60 per cent high quality public housing and some of the highest living standards in the world. If Labor gives up on 'changing society's common sense' to someone more social democratic what does it exist for?
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:16:28 PM
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With all Labours woes of late, all Penny Wong could whinge about was the rumour that ScoMO wanted Brian Housten from Hillsong at a dinner with Trump. Whether its true or not I have no idea but you wonder how irrevelant someone can become. I doubt Trump would of enjoyed Penny's company or although you never know. That Ellen woman was seen having a good time with George Bush recently. I think Penny needs to stop her nasty marxist attitudes and stick to real issues. That goes for all of Labour. As soon as they dump their fanciful gw religion the better.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:21:34 PM
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The author and current respondents focus solely on Income, while the big money in Australia has and always will be made on Property. Hence a Property Tax is where the debate should be. Several university studies have been made on this issue and of course, the Fisher Government's Land Tax implemented in 1915 proved how successful a tax on landed assets could be. Unfortunately Arthur Fadden, the Treasurer in the Menzies Government of 1956 saw fit to revoke the legislation as he stated it was cheaper to collect income tax than through land tax assessors. A graph of land values shows how spectacularly high Australian property values have risen- a much steeper rise than on personal income over the past 63 years. The State Governments have exemptions on their collection of Land Tax, which restrict its effectively as a revenue base, in many cases, gambling taxes exceed this land tax incomes. A Federal tax on all property would be the fairest method of taxation.
Posted by Cyclone, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:50:10 PM
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Probably the biggest increase in inequality in this country is the growth of public service jobs. Thousands and thousands of bureaucrats on healthy and sometimes obscene salaries and often putting up red, black, yellow or rainbow tape to prevent real production in this nation. Some Marxist commentators on abc receiving 400 or 500 thousand per year to push their propaganda. Then we have the Greens leader on over 300000 a year robbing others of a hospital bed as he bludges even more on the system. The growing inequality is between the elite and those just wanting to work for a living. Hopefully more and more of the quite Aussies will wake up to this. Yep the ceo's salaries of corporate Australia is obscene however matched greatly by overpaid bureacrats who desperately want labour/greens in power to keep the tax payers money filling their wallets.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 1:28:53 PM
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The tax year ending 2017 was a year where the top tax paid as non-returnable revenue by any corporation was 13% or If you will 2% lower than a flat tax of just 15% Moreover, many had gotten it down to 4% with a reported 40% paying none!?

A very wise visiting Republican Senator said, if memory serves, on Q+A some years ago, that opaque rules always equate to corruption and our system is corrupt!

And you not only want to keep it!? But increase the burden on those unable to use the law and current privilege? Made to pay more!

Given you and your clearly corrupt cronies get their way?

We'll avoid real tax reform! Reform that simply prevents the avoiders from avoiding! As well as increasing revenue, by at least 2%! Also removes the tax compliance cost burden from small business/everyone else!

Thereby, allow an averaged 7% to be returned to the bottom line!

We stand alone as the most over-governed country, bar one, on the planet!

Left to anal retentives like you appear to be? This will not be allowed to change and thus we the taxpaying average joe will have to continue to shell out completely wasted annual 70+ Billion.
Just paying these anachronisms to remain pretty much useless double handling appendages on the political system, which has to be streamlined to remove the huge and costly inefficiencies, state governments really are.

We are but one country, not even or eight and we just don't need this level of money wasting administration! There are those who like the Labor party and Tristan who will block any change here for purely self-serving reasons, in my view.

And because there is no other logical reason to throw an extra 70+ annual billions into a broken model served by a broken tax system that those with the power to change! Refuse on the basis of idiotic ideological grounds.

Listen only for the purpose of debate, opposing and refuting real reform and the now needed, fundamental changes

Good luck with the next election that is yours to lose!
Alan B..
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 22 October 2019 7:31:28 PM
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