Hey individual,

Yes they have a solution.

- Global Taxes -

http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/12/03/un-climate-chief-has-solution-to-urgent-climate-threat-we-require-deep-transformations-of-our-economies-and-societies/

Hi Bazz/AC,

Re the cosmic ray theory - what I'd call the Svensmark theory. (http://principia-scientific.org/strong-evidence-that-svensmark-s-solar-cosmic-ray-theory-of-climate-is-correct/)

I just like to make one or two corrections to your otherwise very good explanation of the theory.

"The sunspot activity generates a magnetic field around the earth and modifies the existing field. The upshot is the magnetic field around the earth varies with sunspot variation all modulated by all those cycles."

That's not quite right. The earth's magnetic field is generated by the earth itself via the theorised earth iron core. It varies in strength but that has nothing to do with solar activity. Actually no one seems to know why it alters in strength.

What the theory is, is that as the sun's activities alter from strong to weak, so the solar winds (a plasma mostly consisting of electrons, protons and alpha particles with kinetic energy) alter from strong to weak both in volume and speed.

These solar winds which are ejected from the sun itself then interact with the incoming galactic rays allowing more through when the winds are weak , less when strong. When the rays reach the earth they cause cloud formation - more rays means more cloud, less rays less cloud. These are specific high level clouds which, as you say, reflect light back out to space before it is absorbed by CO2 or any other particles.

So the theory runs that climate change alters as the strength of the winds alter, as you ably explained.

Some scientists have also looked at this and wondered if there is some sort of variance in the levels of cosmic rays coming in. So if there are more rays, then more will get through irrespective of the strength of the winds.

There is now a theory that, as the solar system moves around the Milky Way, the volume of rays hitting the solar system alters. Some initial research suggests (but doesn't prove) that this corresponds with the beginning and ends of ice ages. There's now quite a bit of research going on on that theory.

Mhaze
I think we are saying the same thing. Just like the Aura Borealus
and the Aura Australis produce the lights because the magnetic field
is disturbed. I guess "we" are arguing whether the actual solar wind
diverts the cosmic rays or whether it is the disturbed and strengthened
magnetic field that does the job.
Saw a film recently about the sun's cycle, there are currents of plasma ?
coming up from lower in the sun to just below the surface, curling
over, rotating and dissipating.
When they are strong they burst through the surface as sunspots.

Somehow, I think that with all the untrue stories we hear about rising
sea levels, increased bushfires etc etc I think the Svenmark theory
may well be the answer to global warming as well as the Maunder Minimum.
Indeed is it the same thing sans co2.
Isn't it nice to have a discussion without nasty comment. Oh dear.

Hi Bazz,

Yes it is nice to have a discussion without rankle.

I've been following the Svensmark theory since the early 2000's. Earlier I'd read a book by Tasmanian John Daly from 1993 which discussed the fact the solar activity correlated with temperatures in the climate record. But in those days there was no real mechanism that they could point to as to why the correlation existed.

Svensmark provides such a correlation.

In the end, right or wrong, Svensmark and all those who support him or even just want to fully explore the theory, are a direct refutation of the 'science is settled' rubbish. While the science remains unsettled, it is insane to be looking to overturn our economy based on an unproven theory.

Not that any of this data will stop those who a pushing for such change to economic systems. In the end they want the change and CO2 is just the excuse.