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Why Catholic church attendance is falling off : Comments
By Peter Bowden, published 27/8/2019Melbourne’s Catholic Archbishop, Peter Comensoli, recently declared that he would rather go to prison than tell authorities about child sex abuse he learns of during the sacrament of confession.
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Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 12:35:15 PM
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Hi Is Mise
Yes very true. Bishops, priests and monks from all denominations/rites abuse their (tribal, not "God" given) positions by buggering Choir Boys. Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 2:50:55 PM
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plantagenet,
Care to give a reference, particularly to the Armenian Rite? Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 5:40:25 PM
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IM your odd use of "rite" I take to mean Christian Denomination. Also Jewish religious/school figures have been accused of child molesting.
On Armenian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Apostolic_Church#Modern_era "In 2016 Agos published a report about child abuse during the 90s at the Jarankavorats Armenian School in Jerusalem. According to the report several of the clergymen raped a young male student. This story first aired in a documentary aired on Israeli television." See further details http://www.agos.com.tr/en/article/14880/child-abuse-everywhere. This is noting Agos is not an anti-Armenian, Turkish Government creation. See this Agos article on the Armenian Genocide committed by Turkey http://www.agos.com.tr/en/article/22673/what-is-the-un-asking-of-turkey Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 6:46:16 PM
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Dear Spencer,
Thank you for all the information. Were the organisations you worked for also expecting counsellors to report to secular authorities the confessions of victims who forgave their abusers or who otherwise did not want others to know about what happened to them? «The RCC and other denominations could stop this being an issue by making the confessional a place of 'confidentiality, truth, and submission to governing authorities (Romans 13:1)'.» If an offender was ready to submit to governing authorities, then they wouldn't need the church - they could instead simply walk into a police station and confess their crimes to a police officer. The assurance of absolute confidentiality is very essential to help all the others to relieve their crippling guilt - offenders, victims and even third-parties who just happened to find out about a crime, also those who offended, or were being offended, in thought only and are haunted by unwholesome fantasies. Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 7:27:55 PM
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I agree with Mr. Opinion. It would be good to get some good figures on the data. It seems over the years you hear people say attendance is growing or falling. And you only hear it from those who want it to fall say that it's falling, or wanting it to grow say that it's growing.
Creates two different narratives that might both be true depending on when we're talking about for when it grows or when it falls. But one narrative ignores the other so it sounds like if you listen to one or the other that there is only a fall in church goers or a rise in church goers. Instead of seeing if the data shows a trend of continued rise or fall outside of the usual dips and peaks that come and go. (Or if there is no actual trend and there just the dips and peaks for times when attendance rises or it falls) Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 29 August 2019 5:19:30 AM
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Have you all forgotten about the other Rites, such as the Alexandrian Rite, Armenian Rite, Byzantine Rite etc., etc?