Issy,

read my posting again, the answer is within.

ALTRAV,

You said that it was not a human being until it breathed, so one assumes that you believe that abortion is possible until, in your opinion, it is a human.

Or are you saying that humanity starts when it is born, that is when it is outside the mother's body?

You can't have it both ways.

ISSY,

I'm not having it 'both ways'.
If you read my previous response it clearly states that once you have allowed IT to exit the mother, breathing or not, the medical staff, mid-wife, doctor are duty bound by proto-col, and law, to do everything in their power to ensure IT starts breathing.
To do otherwise will be akin to manslaughter or murder.
If they try and IT does not respond, then IT, (what we now call a baby, only because it looks like a baby, and if was breathing, would be a BABY) is 'stillborn', or dead.
So because of this IT never lived or 'came alive', to become a BABY.
I hope this clarifies.

ALTRAV,

I wasn't asking what the legal or medical opinion was but what you thought, is it still abortion before the first breath?

ISSY,

I truly want to answer you, but I am having trouble understanding the question.
"so killing IT before IT takes IT's first breath, should be OK by you".

Yes, if IT is still within the mother then I imagine if you intervened and destroyed IT within, then that would be, by todays standards, 'abortion'.
By my standards it would still be called 'abortion', but because IT is not 'alive' then it's OK.

BUT, once IT has exited the mother and is not yet breathing, then,
NO, it's not alright to kill IT, it's too late, you should have done it before IT was born.
You cannot ask such a question and dismiss the law, or it's legal implications, or YOUR legal obligations, for that matter.

Am I getting you right, or have I missed your point?

ALTRAV,

You've missed the point,
you say that it is not human until it takes its first breath, so would you still consider it abortion to kill it after it is fully out of the mother but has not yet breathed?

Simple question.