The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Not acting on climate crisis is at our peril > Comments

Not acting on climate crisis is at our peril : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 23/8/2019

The scientific evidence is overwhelming, and denying that climate change is already upon us, especially as the president and his party does, flies in the face of the indisputably dire consequences.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. All
What about wars for Israel?
How many bombs are dropping / will drop / have dropped for Israeli foreign policy?
Why don't you fix that first before you lecture us on how we should live in our own countries?
In fact even then you should zip your lip.

And why is it Jews always try to hold some higher position of moral authority or co-opt or hide behind social issues to lecture us on how things should be?

Stop trying to steer the future.
Stop trying to indoctrinate foreign citizens to become climate retards;
(I'm not sure we have mental institution capacity of housing and caring for these poor lost souls)
Stop meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.

Your lecturing us is hardly much different than the Brits dumping opium into China.

- It's not your job to micromanage the planet -

Don't you have enough on your own plate that you need to worry about whats on everyone else's as well?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 24 August 2019 3:30:48 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Science is never settled, it is continually updated as new facts come to hand.
Galen,
With the above sentence you're actually referring to real Science, not the pseudo intellectual quoting & pasting & guessing by half-baked wannabe academics.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 24 August 2019 7:37:09 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Fact! Our planet's climate is normally controlled by the great nuclear furnace in the sky. And when it waxes (most active phase) the joint warms and when it wanes (least active phase) it cools. The latter waning phase has proceeded every cooling period and ice age. It's almost as if the sun had a 100,000-year-long pulse?

And runner correctly identified that an ice age was predicted back in the mid-seventies, given it was back then that our sun went into a waning phase(NASA)

Google NASA and take butchers at photographic evidence of our sun to see what it looks like during its period of lowest, waning phase, activity. A typical fried egg look.

Simply put and as identified by that genius, runner. One cannot have a normal cyclical phase and record-breaking heat events simultaneously!

An obsessed runner's and other genius responses? Too simply jettison and disregard the evidence of a normal cyclical waning phase! Why? Because that would mean we and the planet would be compelled to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels! No other rational reason flies!

In their tiny collective mind, they cannot conceive that we can have record-breaking heatwaves, the worst droughts in living memory, and one in one hundred year flood events every couple of years somewhere on our planet! I mean, it's just one planet and all the extreme weather events on it are connected/have the same fundamental inescapable cause!

And we can decarbonate our economy and indeed have the world follow our rationalist's example, by using the brains that we were born with to use it as a heaven-sent opportunity to also and simultaneously, quite massively turbocharge our economy and turn our arid desert wasteland into virtual gardens of Eden.

Something that a religious runner and his (anti-Christ) cohort clearly don't want!? Given their extremely vociferous opposition to decarbonising and therefore quite massively turbocharging the economy! And with it create huge (cooperative capitalism) entrepreneurial wealth creation and good Samaritan opportunities!TBC
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:02:46 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hey Bazz,

I found the article

Cook, J., et al. 'Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature', Environmental Research Letters 8 (2), 2013.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 24 August 2019 2:41:33 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Sir Richard Brampton tells a story about how he invited a highly placed official from the flat earth society for a flight in his low orbit spacecraft. Anyhow the invitation was accepted and the passenger was almost glued to the vision port. Upon landing, Sir Richard enquired of his passenger, "what do you think now"?

Whereupon the highly placed, flat earth society official replied and here I paraphrase. " The special effects were out of the world and the graphics were extremely realistic"!

And underlines the fact that where the inescapable evidence conflicts with what some CHOOSE to believe, The incontrovertible evidence is simply jettisoned/ disregarded in favour of inculcated belief! And when it comes to global warming when all the inescapable evidence shows, we should be well into a cooling period.

Yet living through numerous record-breaking heatwaves, extreme weather events, the lack of for the first time in living memory of summer sea ice off the Alaskan coast and record ice melts/shrinkage. None of which should be happening during said waning phase of the sun! Tells us something is very out of wack and we humans are causing it!

Defeatist say this is just normal cyclical weather variations and nothing we can do about it! And completely wrong on both counts and without tanking the economy. Just the very opposite! And massively so! I kid you not! TBC
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 25 August 2019 10:56:46 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Addressing manmade climate change requires first, an acceptance of the incontrovertible evidence of our own eyes!

Too hard?

Then when we've done that, map out a workable plan that addresses it and in a manner that does not damage, but rather massively boosts and turbocharges our economy!

Still with me?

And by embracing, safe, clean cheaper than coal thorium and nuclear energy!

The only thing that made carbon-free nuclear energy an unacceptable risk was and remains the pressure conventional solid-fueled,l water-cooled reactors must necessarily operate under!

Some 150 atmospheres!

And to underline how much pressure that is, requires pressure reactor vessels made of a single piece of 7-inch thick single pour, solid steel and made in just one place in the world! Japan.

Only by embracing carbon-free nuclear energy can we replace coal as our reliable, dispatchable, affordable power. And in order for this to happen, government here and around the world must both own and operate it, If only to end the prevarication and decades of delay that would allow us to cross a tipping point beyond which there's no return!

With nuclear energy harnessed and at our disposal, we can draw down the carbon in the atmosphere by Vacuuming carbon from seawater via simple vacuum towers. And then using a well-known process combine it with hydrogen to create endlessly sustainably synthetic fuel. Which will buy us some time as we and the world transition to a fully electrified economy

At less total cost of currently imported refined foreign fuel!

Interestingly, as we extract CO2 directly from seawater it absorbs similar quantities from the atmosphere. Instead of burning down rainforest to increase food and fibre production, nuclear energy will allow us to irrigate vast desert wasteland and revegetate those with orchards and carbon-absorbing cash yielding crops.

There is no downside to this, just win-win all round if we can do it for ourselves! And keep the debt-laden, tax-avoiding, price gouging, profit repatriating foreigner out of the equation! Via cooperative capitalism!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 25 August 2019 11:31:18 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy