The only way that Gaza and the West bank could ever be successful economic entities would be to remove all of the Arab Muslims who live there now and replace them with Israeli Jews.

It must be so galling for the Arab Muslims to raise that the super intelligent Jews could take a barren strip of land with absolutely no resources whatsoever except an intelligent population, and turn it into a prosperous, democratic country that is a scientific leader. Apparently, he improvements that the Israelis made to the F-35 avionics were so good that the US Air Force incorporated them into their own F-35's.

On the Other hand, the Arab Muslims with some of the most fertile lands in the world, oceans of oil, and some of the world's most revered archeological treasures, have economies so bad that everybody wants to immigrate to the western non Muslim world

he israelis could not have done it without the massive input from the US and other Jews from around the world.
David

Dave of VK3AUU.

Davey boy, your view of Israeli success is ridiculous.

Obviously you know very little of Israeli history to make such bland uneducated statements.

What's the reason for your hate?

Truth is, it was US involvement in the ME which came close to terminating Israel in the 1960's.

The US sold them out and double crossed them by treacherously relaying critical secret military information on defence installations.
Set up listening posts off shore to intercept radio communication, and passed this critical security information on to Egypt.

Fortunately, the Israelites had perfected miniature nuclear arms which they very nearly used because of the betrayal.

Does that sound US friendly Dave?

Dan.

Trump is the last person in the world who would do what know alls and windbags think he should do - thankfully.

Diver Dan, you live in an alternate universe.
David

What's your version of events Dave?

Between the combined treachery of Britain and the US, they near sank Israel.
It's ALL about oil with those two!

The other factor is of course, which US administration is in power; but it's still a case of OIL wins over loyalty.

Similar to the vagaries of the Australian allegiance. The Labor Party is a non supporter.

Dan

Bleeding heart and puppet Master extraordinaire, David Singer. has all of Trump's moves worked out for him!

Legal migration for those whose land you would acquire via confiscation, David? Really?

What? Some sort of, on the road to Damascus epiphany, David?
Alan B.

Once again David Singer is champion for the interests of what amounts to the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine. Remember it started with the British promise to set up a Jewish homeland in Palestine as they were defeating the Ottoman Empire as a bribe to convince Jews with political influence in the US to have it join the war effort against Germany. According the Balfour agreement of 1917, this was not supposed to disadvantage Palestinians, of which the order of 10% were Jews who had long lived in harmony with other ethnic groups there.

DNA evidence apparently shows only a small proportion Jews who have emigrated to Palestine have ancestry going back to Jews there in Biblical times. Their heritage is largely from the rogue Kingdom of Khazaria which existed north and east of the Black Sea several hundred years ago before it was destroyed by neighbours - especially Russia who were sick of unscrupulous behaviour of its citizens.

Khazaria had been forced about 300 years earlier by Russia and Persia to adopt an Abrahamic religion in an attempt to improve ethical standards of its people. They chose Judaism. Since after WW1, Jews have been encouraged to emigrate to Israel, where they have been given more rights than the existing Palestinian community. The Zionists have been continually been stealing land rightfully owned by Palestinians since. Now David Singer wants to facilitate and encourage legal migration from the West Bank and Gaza, where the latter has effectively been run lately and the worlds' largest prison camp.

The proposed tactic of Trump to encourage Jewish emigration from these areas is grossly preposterous. Effectively stealing more Palestinian land to reduce the backlash against Palestinian land being stolen.

mox: Absolutely nailed it! And absolutely historically accurate!

Britain used the fact that a few rogue Arab leaders sided with Rommel's desert brigade as the only excuse they needed to steal land from folk, the majority of whom were caught up in other nations conflict.

It's not as if these so-called Leaders were ever elected and by the people whose lands are forfeit! Not then or since!

Clearly, it was unelected dictators, clerics, who decided to attack Israel and whip up hatred in simple non-political Arabs!

Land grabs have never ever assisted but serve and served to whip up resentment and hatred!

Which can only fester and grow to a point where only a complete annihilation of one side or the other, will end the eternal bloodletting!

Why couldn't Britain have simply purloined some of the lands of some of the main axis of evil, protagonists? And created enclaves in Italy, Germany and Japan.

Some of who still owe massive, never ever paid, war debt!.

If we owe money as individuals, we stand to have our property seized and forfeited. Why is it only the dirt poor impoverished Arabs who've have had to concede post-war territory?
Alan B.

There are multiple U.N. resolutions which reiterated previous Security Council calls for Israel to stop expanding its illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank and Gaza which violate the Fourth Geneva Convention and a landmark ruling by the International Court of Justice.

Note the word “occupied” David.

I agree Trump should fully support the migration of as many israeli’s as possible, perhaps the Arabs can get back what is rightfully recognised as ‘their’s’ under international law.

Kushner is a one eyed Zionist and know financial supporter of illegal settler occupation thereby negating him from having any moral, ethical or any other right to be involved in any negotiations.

The entire ‘Deal of the Century’ is nothing but a shoddy and blatantly dishonest attempt to further delegitimise the Palestinian right to have their ownership of their ancestral homes returned to them.

European jewish immigrants and settlers have no ancestral links to Middle Eastern lands and should return to whence they came from.

You should be ashamed to have authored this load of rubbish David.

Once again mpox is the champion of a 6th century terrorism endorsing fascist religion who's scriptures demand the subjugation of the entire world to Islam. And he bitterly resents that with Israel, one of the lands conquered by this fascist religion, the Jewish people came back and took their country back from the conquerors.

Israel is a stable, prosperous, and democratic country despite having no natural resources whatsoever. It is na unwelcome example to the mullahs and the Imams of what people of intelligence can do when they sublimate religion to science. Can't have that. Israel is also an unwelcome reminder to every Arab of every resource rich Arab country of how miserably they have done compared to the Jews. Israel has an illegal immigration problem like every other western democratic country. Muslim countries are not noted for having illegal immigration problems at all, because they are all sheetholes.

mpox dreams of turning Israel into another Muslim failed state. Maybe it is because he bows to Mecca when he prays?

Complaining about how Jews dispossessed Muslims in Israel is like Jews complaining about Nazi's being dispossessed of Germany by being defeated by the Allies in WW2. Islam is a fascist ideology that has invaded and destroyed scores of Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian states and not for the better, either. Having Muslim whine about one of their victims turning the table on them is a concept more worthy of hilarity that serious consideration.

Lastly mpox whines about Muslims having second class status in Israel. Every non Muslim in a Muslim country has second class status in every Muslim failed state but naturally, mpox does not want to talk about that. The fact remains that non combative Muslims are treated a lot better in Israel than any non Muslim is treated in any Muslim failed state.

If the population of Australia and the population of Israel swapped countries, Israel would become a failed state and Australia the richest country in the world. It all comes down to intelligence and unity, and the Jews have bucket loads of that.

Hey LEGO,

The only thing I give a crap about is the plan to rule over all nations from Jerusalem in a coming Messianic age they wish to impose over all mankind.

As a Aussie citizen I say No! to the destruction of my nations sovereignty;
I say No! to global governance (global GOVERNMENT by unseen unelected bureaucrats with our nations leaders as pathetic figureheads only)
And I say No! to plans for a global Jewish religious theocracy.

I say No! the the New World Order.

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/118979/sanhedrin-nikki-haley-president/

'God's chosen people' is a toxic and cancerous ideology that ends with everyone else on the planet subjagated;
Just as it did in the past with socialism and communism and millions upon millions dead.

You call me cattle, but I cannot criticise you.
The idea of anti-Semitism is just a baby step to imposing religious Noahide laws upon secular nations.

The Jerusalem Conspiracy
http://youtu.be/syUSQEUpTTQ

Albert Pike 3 World Wars
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=albert+pike+3+world+wars

Lets also not forget the FACTS:

The modern State of Israel was precipitated by the King David Hotel bombing carried out by Menachem Begin, leader of the Irgun at the time, during the mandate era.
Menachem Begin is also founder of the current ruling Likud Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud

Hence the modern state of Israel was built out of terrorists and acts of terrorism.

These are UNDENIABLE facts.

Want another Fact?

The 'War on Terror' wasn't started by the US.

It was started by Benjamin Netanyahu at the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/25239330

International terrorism, challenge and response : proceedings of the Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism / editor, Benjamin Netanyahu

Some further reading...
http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=77583

AC.

it's all too easy to fall into the comfort zone of conspiracy theories, to define a view of a random world in which we live.

Israel (if it suffers at all), falls under the cloak ( and the dagger as a consequence), of siege mentality.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_mentality.

It's history very much eminates from this position. It has little reason for trust in anything but itself.

But obviously, as no man is an Island unto themselves, likewise, no country will stand for too long on its own resources indefinitely.
There is a heavy need for allegiances.

I can "imagine" Israels wish for conspiring towards innovations such as you describe. But obviously in the real world, they become unpractical.
It's about survival and very much a bull ants nest in a sand heap.

I always read your ideas with interest, and agree on most, but not this one; it's far-out mate.

Dan

AC

I've just now noticed your last post directly above. Mine was pre-that post.
I'll study your references. ( but not utube).

The likes of LEGO should remember that the main reason the Criminal Apartheid State in Occupied Palestine superficially appears successful to some is that among Jews, there have always been some who carry on as masters of deception while regarding themselves as the "chosen ones" and will use and sometimes "stab in the back" non Jews who have helped them and thought they were friends. An obvious reason why over the last 1,000 years, Jews have been kicked out of over 100 jurisdictions. Part of the reason others supported the creation of a Jewish homeland in Israel was to get rid of some of their Jews. Including the Nazis in the 1930s with the Haavara agreement encouraging German Jews to emigrate to Israel. Is important to note that Israel is basically a parasite state receiving massive economic and military support from overseas without which it could not survive. Largely the US because of the strong influence of Zionists there. Its present apartheid regime is controlled by outsiders who do not belong in the area. ie those whose historical ethnic background is mainly Khazarian Jews. Not those descended from the tribes of Israel of biblical times who long lived in harmony with other ethnic groups there.

Regarding Zionist deception to mislead others into helping them, two all time classics were the unsuccessful USS Liberty incident in 1967 during the Six Day War and also 9/11 to mislead he US into wars on behalf of Israel. I have personally seen a small scale similar type of despicable effort. Re what seem due to internal politics in a voluntary organisation, a Jewish woman tried to set up a bloke who had helped her and her then boyfriend and thought they were friends to get into trouble with police. Fortunately it did not succeed and was discovered. She responded with nasty preposterous threats.

Mox

Your off your head! I'm roaring with laughter over this one!
I'm still waiting for Armchair Critic to respond to a halting truth to his conspiracy theory, the Jews wish to take over the world!

And Mox, why would Israel bomb and strafe a US navel vessel without cause...in your words? Shaking hands with friends in a military way maybe? :-)) lol

Dan

"I'm still waiting for Armchair Critic to respond to a halting truth to his conspiracy theory, the Jews wish to take over the world!"

I don't have to respond to it because I already did.
I've already made the points I wanted to in the articles and videos I linked;
And your acting like a child carrying on when you haven't checked the content.
- I've had my right to say what I think. -
That's protected speech under Section 18D.

I'm not claiming a right to insult or denigrate others.

I've posted links for you, go learn the Talmud.
Go check the links and info I've posted here and on other threads.
Look up Moshiach and the Messianic age or something.
Go look at US dollar bill with 'novus ordo seclorum'

I'm not going to argue and carry on irrationally.
- But you can do it for me if you really want to...

Hi diver dan

Your "Sunday, 7 July 2019 1:35:37 PM" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=20391&page=0#360242

Where you say:

"conspiracy theory... And Mox, why would Israel bomb and strafe a US navel vessel without cause...in your words? Shaking hands with friends in a military way maybe? :-)) lol"

For a start read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War#USS_Liberty_incident which indicates senior US and naval officers considered the Israeli straffing and bombing of USS Liberty was intentional:

"the then United States Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Chief of Naval Operations at the time,

Admiral Thomas Moorer, some survivors of the attack and intelligence officials familiar with

transcripts of intercepted signals on the day, have rejected these [mistaken identity]

conclusions as unsatisfactory and maintain that the [Israeli air] attack [on USS Liberty] was made in the

[Israeli Armed Forces] knowledge that the ship was American"

US SOURCES OF INFORMATION?

As it says above:

"[US NSA] transcripts of [US NSA] intercepted [Israeli pilot and Israeli higher command] signals"

AND ALSO

Many Israeli NSA operators who had long identified USS Liberty as a US signals interception ship were Jewish-Americans previously worked for (and retired from) the US NSA. After some soul searching some admitted to their former US employers that Israel had full knowledge.

Prior to the Israeli straffing of USS Liberty Israel had been angered at earlier USS Liberty (and other US intercept ship) missions that not only intercepted Arab signals but confiendential Israeli signal transmissions.

Not to Israeli anger at US U2 over (and border) flights taking photos of Israel's (then secret) nuclear weapon establishment at Dimona. http://www.miftah.org/PrinterF.cfm?DocId=2947

BUT FOR BILATERAL AND PUBLIC RELATIONS (AND LOVED ONE CONCERNS) IT WAS FAR EASIER FOR ISRAEL

AND THE US TO OFFICIALLY AGREE THE STRAFFING OF USS LIBERTY WAS "DUE TO MISTAKEN IDENTITY"

Pete

AC

obviously your not a Zionist. So what does that make you then? Goes without saying!

Dan.

CORRECTION - MISSING WORD ABOVE

Not to MENTION Israeli anger at US U2 reconnaisance aircraft over (and border) flights taking photos of Israel's (then secret) nuclear weapon establishment at Dimona. http://www.miftah.org/PrinterF.cfm?DocId=2947

Hi diver dan

I think the USS Liberty comment you made at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8836&page=0#285784 on the Jacqui Lambie thread was meant for this thread.

Cheers

Pete

The likes of mpox should realise that the sexist, criminal apartheid states of Islam, who persecute anyone who is not a Muslim, are hardly in a position to call the kettle black on persecution and land stealing. At the turn of the century, Christians consisted of 11% of the population within Islam, today it is down to 4% and the rest are fleeing if they can. The Jewish component of the middle east now resides almost exclusively in Israel, as they have been driven right out of every other Muslim apartheid state. You would think that the Muslims would now leave the Jews alone? But they can't do that for a religious reason. That is, that wherever Islam has conquered, the muzzies consider that Muslim land forever. Allah would never forgive them if they allowed the infidels they conquered to reclaim their country. This is especially so with Palestine/Israel, as it was the homeland of the Jews for 3500 years and eradicating an entire religion by conquering it's homeland is symbolically important to Islam.

If Israel is a viable state because of money transfers from overseas Jews, which I would dispute anyway, then that simply displays how cohesive the Jews are. This is in marked contrast to Muslims, who while always saying that they are a unified brotherhood, constantly bicker and go to war with each other further bankrupting their already bankrupt economies. No wonder the Muslims admire Hitler. Goering once said of Hitler," his answer to everything was war, and his answer to war was always attack."

The problem is not Israel, it is Islam. A 6th century sexist, terrorism endorsing religion who is trying to exist a modern world using unchanging 6th century morality, and failing miserably. The only recourse it's mullahs and imams have is to revert to the time honoured tactics of every failing tyrant of every dysfunctional failed state that ever existed. Find a way to channel your people's anger to an outside source and blame it all on them. Worked for Hitler. The ayatollahs' in Iran are trying it out now too.

To Armchair Critic.

Oh, I get you now. You are an old style John Birch Society anti semite who's despises the Jews because they killed Jesus Christ?

Look AC, I really admire the Jews and the Israelis in particular. But I will admit that you do have some valid points. The problem with multiculturalism is that you just don't know where the real allegiances of any racial demographic group is, within your own country. This has always applied to the Jews, as they essentially lost their homeland and became part of every nations population. Yet they still maintain very strong kinship links with each other to the extent that the suspicion exists that they are not really nationalistic to the non Jewish host countries they live in, but only to themselves.

Jews appear to have created Internationalism as a way of protecting themselves. International Socialism was invented by a Jew, and even here on OLO, a Jewish author wrote an article saying essentially "we Jews invented multiculturalism". And then they wonder why their host people are leery of them? Thanks a lot, fellas.

Hitler hated the Jews because of the German civil war where the most prominent leaders of the International Socialists battling his National Socialists were Jews. Jewish internationalists and other non Jewish Internationalist gave away the west's nuclear secrets to the Soviets on the basis that the west was as bad as the Sovs. Although it is funny how these Internationalists who think that the west is just awful all want to live with us.

So, I do agree with some of your thinking. But I still can not dispute the very real contribution to science that the Jews have made to the western world. When we talk of western civilisation, we talk of "Judeo-Christian" civilisation for good reason. On the whole, Jews make excellent, law abiding and wealth creating citizens. And one reason why Islam has failed is because it persecuted it's wealth creating Jews so much, that they fled and took their wealth creation and business acumen with them.

Lego.

I agree with the basics you've outlined, but I think your a bit stereotypical.
I hold more hope in the Muslim side of the equation than you. There is more to their history than you imply, which your abandonment of hope towards them gives.

Inside the Muslim compound there is a recognition of a need to mellow it down. That is generally the bone of contention between them.
The Jews aren't exactly homogeneous either, let's be honest. Just as with the Muslims, they suffer the tensions between conservative fundamentalist and the liberal left, (as many here call them).

But I enjoyed your take on it all.

Plantagenet:

No: I exceeded my post limit, and fudged the books by deliberately posting the comment where you were active.

It was important to make the distinction (re Liberty attack), between Israel in a state of pissed-off, and the more urgent position it was in, under siege by its own allie, the U S.

It was a more vulnerable Israel fifty years ago. It's a good example of just how vulnerable.

Dan.

Hey LEGO;
"Oh, I get you now. You are an old style John Birch Society anti semite who's despises the Jews because they killed Jesus Christ?"

No, that's not the source of my opinions;
- And I don't particularly like that you've used the term 'anti-semite' but it gives me an opportunity to address it anyway.

First and foremost, my issue isn't primarily about people;
- It's about ideas, or ideologies.
And the idea or ideology that I disagree with, and oppose, (in this instance)
Is the idea of 'World Government' as opposed to nation states having their own 'National Sovereignty'.

To make it crystal clear for you;
I oppose the idea of being ruled over by foreigners.

- It's as simple as that -
Need it be more complicated?

I'm not motivated by a 'love or hate for any particular race or religion', but about 'ideas' that I disagree with.

It's a completely secondary issue who the particular people in question are who are behind whatever particular idea it is I disagree with;
I have no control over that.

Regards the definition of 'Anti-semitism':
One might argue that there's some dependency between what the ADL defines as 'anti-semitism' and what a fair and reasonable person may consider fair and reasonable criticism.

I always try to argue issues on the basis of their own merits, and I'm quite capable of doing so more often than not;
Also I often add links to provide some kind of basis or context for my arguments or opinions.

"But I still can not dispute the very real contribution to science that the Jews have made to the western world."

I don't resent people for making good business or financial choices and I'd never want to take away anyone's achievements, (academic or otherwise) provided they played fairly.
Everybody has the right to live however they choose so long as it doesn't have an adverse effect of others.

To AC.

For a writer who has posted articles to the effect that the Jews want to take over the world and create a world government consisting of a Jewish religious autocracy, your claim that you are not anti Semitic looks strange to me. But I have my own concerns about Jews, so perhaps others may think that I am anti Semitic? Even though I generally have a good opinion of Jews, and of Israelis in particular.

Your next stated opinion is that you support national sovereignty. Well, on that score you and I are in accord. It is the rest of your opinions, which seem to suggest that the USA is the bad guy, and countries like Venezuela, North Korea, and Iran are the good guys who are the innocent victims of US aggression, which I find bizarre.

So too, you infer that the Israelis are doing something wrong in Israel, by doing exactly the same thing to their Muslim persecutors, that their Muslim persecutors have been doing to them for centuries. If another state told Australia that they seriously intended to exterminate us, and we responded by taking some of their territory to make ourselves more defensible, I don't see how Australia is doing anything wrong. So too, if that enemy state had supporters within Australia, I guarantee that we would be making life unpleasant for our internal enemies, and encouraging them to go somewhere else.

I find it incredible that Muslim Arab states with all of their insolvable problems can never even try and do anything about them. All they obsess about is to crush Israel, crush Israel, crush Israel. It is the sort of thinking that only fundamentally religious people can come up with. They accept that their lives are absolutely miserable and will always be so. Their only hope of a better life is to become a jihadi and live on into eternity on the seventh level of paradise with Allah.

And you support their crazy thinking, and egg them on with regards to Israel?

Cuckoo, cuckoo.

Hey LEGO,
"For a writer who has posted articles to the effect that the and create a world government consisting of a Jewish religious autocracy, your claim that you are not anti Semitic looks strange to me."

I can see how it might be perceived that way by some.

"But I have my own concerns about Jews, so perhaps others may think that I am anti Semitic?"

I don't know what your particular concerns about Jews are;
And I didn't define what being 'Anti-Semitic' is or isn't;
I haven't looked at, nor considered or argued the basis (or merit) of those definitions.
My position would be 'are your concerns fair and reasonable and do those concerns have a basis of merit?'
The goverments position based on 18D is 'are those opinions an extension of your true beliefs?'

Let's take a look at whether my concerns are fair and reasonable and have a basis of merit.

It's probably not a good idea for me to say "Jews want to take over the world" because it might be implied that I meant 'All Jews', which probably wouldn't be accurate, if taken as meaning all people who identify as being 'Jewish'.
There are some who are known as 'Secular Jews', and they may not support the religious beliefs.
I don't know the origin of the word 'Jew' but I assume it would allude to 'Judaism';

Let's take a look at these articles.

[Cont.]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245869

"Let us remember on this Jerusalem Day that our mission here is greater than mere politics or military victory. It is the living, breathing embodiment of an eternal Covenant that, far from being an irritating burden, is a unique blessing that will soon include the entire world within its light."

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/118979/sanhedrin-nikki-haley-president/

"God established the borders of the world based on the 70 children of Israel who went down to Egypt and the 70 nations that came out from Noah. The concept of 70 Nations is from the Bible and symbolizes the basis for the organization while not being intended to imply a limit or requirement for participation...

The concept of 70 nations also appears in reference to the 70 oxen offered in the Temple throughout Sukkot (the feast of the tabernacles) which the Talmud (Sukkah 55b) teaches are for the merit of the 70 nations...

In the Organization of 70 Nations based on Mount Zion, every nation shall retain its language, culture, and traditions. Each nation shall retain its sovereignty in its place without any threat from roaming bands of refugees.

Each nation shall be solely responsible for maintaining a fitting and proper justice system as per the Seven Noahide Laws incumbent upon all of mankind."

See that final statement above?
Does it or does it not state that these religious Jews wish to impose a type of religious theocracy upon all mankind?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

"According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws because they were given by Moses are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in Olam Haba (עולם הבא, the world to come), the final reward of the righteous."

They're talking about the Messianic age.

You criticised me because I said "Jews want to take over the world and create a world government consisting of a Jewish religious autocracy".

Well is this not THEIR own statements not mine?

Does challenging me because I said it not make about as much sense as getting angry at the postman because he brought you the electrical bill?

[Cont.]

Lets return to this idea of Anti-Semitism.

By accusing me of Anti-Semitism, and imposing an idea reserved for one single demographic of people, what you're actually doing 'allowing them' (those who claim an offense by anti-Semitism) to impose religious Noahide laws upon me.
Because under Noahide law, I'm not permitted to blaspheme or speak against God or the religious authority.
You wouldn't like it if Muslims imposed Shariah Law upon you would you?
Well I don't support the idea of any religion imposing their laws upon me.

And also there's a genuine attempt right now to define Anti-Semitism as also including Anti-Zionism.

Even now in other forum threads we're discussing whether Israel Folau's 'Freedom of Religion' entitles him to discriminate against other based on his religious beliefs.
How is that argument any different to this one?

Regards your other concerns / criticisms, I'm happy to answer and give you my stated opinion on those topics but I'll have to respond later when I have more time; and comments as to answer your concerns property it may take more space than the daily comment limit that I have left.

Well to begin with AC, I believe in freedom of speech. That is the absolute right of a free people living in a democratic country to openly discuss, or write about, any social or political matter. Under that definition, no person, or no group of people's behaviour, is beyond criticism. So inferring that I am somehow encouraging censorship of your opinions simply by saying that your criticisms of Jews is extreme to the point of being anti semitic, is simply wrong. One link that you gave to me to examine, was from the John Birch Society. This particular group is notorious for being a Christian political organization which was regarded for decades as being fanatically anti Semitic.

Your opinion, based upon the teachings of the John Birch Society, is that there is a secretive coven of Jewish "Illuminati" plotting to take over the world. That looks potty to me. We have seen the same conspiracy theories about the Masons and the Jesuits. At one time, the US government actually believed that there was a room full of International Socialists somewhere, and in that room among the vodka fumes, Cuban cigar smoke, and lemon chicken dishes, they all sat around plotting to take over the world.

Extremist organizations exist within probably every social organisattion known to man. But they are fringe dwellers. Although sometimes they can have influence beyond their numbers purely through their fanatic advocacy. But the Jewish faith is not like the Islamic faith, although there are obvious similarities. The Islamic faith has a holy book which instructs all Muslims to spread their faith through violence and terror. Unless you can come up with similar passages in the Jewish holy book, then your claim that the Jewish faith is plotting to take over the world looks potty to me.

When I was in high school, we were subject to compulsory religious instruction. I can still remember a succession of religious clergy telling me that eventually, the whole world would be Christian. Does this mean that Christianity is plotting to take over the world?

Oh Puleeze....'anti Semitic'....the title has been bandied about so much that it's losing any meaning whatsoever.
Just what interpretation of Semitic are we supposed to focus on when hearing the word??
Everyone is anti something so whether it's Semitic or Christian or Muslim...makes no difference.
Me! I'm just anti stupidity so that about covers everything.
'Israeli Jew' as opposed, to any other Jew, is supposed to be the pinnacle of Jews whereas to my mind the distinction is equivalent to 'Thug' simply because any and all individuals are judged by their actions....not their excuses so when I read that Israeli Jews are the only beings capable of turning desert to an oasis I have to laugh at the moronic stupidity that gave rise to the statement.

To "Special Delivery".

Both Jews and Arabs may both be smart enough to turn desert into oasis, but it is only the Jews who have done it. And they did it without the massive resources that the Arabs have. Perhaps the reason is that the Jews are a lot smarter and more socially cohesive than the Arabs? And they are not as bound by their religious thinking as they by their their scientific thinking?

LEGO...as far as I'm concerned it's religion that has created the very evils that it was supposed to ward off, so spare me the BS.
Anyone can enrich themselves by stealing if they can get away with it.
The British did it for more than a century with India being it's jewel in the crown. The US just continued albeit in a more clandestine way.
The problem with the Arabs is that they're one step behind Christianity and two steps behind the Jews, waiting for another Saladin to propel them to the fore, with their current leaders being more self serving.
In the west the evangelical Christians have this misguided notion that the Jews consider them as equals and all that stands in their way is this Christ character that needs to be reconciled but seeing as he was a Jew after all it's almost a done deal....so they would like to think!