Banjo, by your comments, you seem to have a problem with men.
I am at pains to understand why you believe this.
Do you have anything to clarify your stance.
I am not criticizing, I am merely curious and hopefully stand to learn something I did not previously consider.

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Dear ALTRAV,

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You advise :

« … you seem to have a problem with men »

That's an interesting comment, Altrav, but I don't think it's true as a general rule. I'm a pretty easy-going sort of a fellow. I usually try to get along with most people whatever their sexual orientation. Same goes for politics, ideologies, religions, etc. – as long as nobody tries to force their beliefs and convictions on me. Naturally, I don't reject them but try to understand them.

However, understanding is not necessarily agreeing and adopting.

I'm a man and my five lifetime friends are all men too. I have been very happily married for the past 51 years with my one and only wife and we have 2 grown-up children and 3 grandchildren.
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You add :

« I am at pains to understand why you believe this »

I presume you are referring to what I wrote in my post to Rivka Witenberg, the author of the article we are discussing on this thread.

In that post, I was not expressing my « beliefs », Altrav. I was referring to the belief of Israel Folau in the Christian doctrine of the Trinity (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost) – a triumvirate of all-male characters.

It seems paradoxical to me that Izzy should love and worship so fervently an exclusively all-male divinity and, at the same time, harrass and menace not only people who indulge in same-sex relationships (as he does, himself, because of his religious beliefs), but, also, people who are fornicators like the Holy Ghost, i.e., people who have sexual intercourse with someone they are not married to.

Perhaps Izzy should envisage a change of religion. I think there are still a number of religions around that do not have same-sex and fornicating divinities like Christianity. He might be able to find one that keeps him out of trouble and makes him feel more comfortable – so that he can get on with doing what he knows how to do best – rugby.

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Dear ALTRAV,

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The founders, developers and promoters of the Christian religion have tied-themselves-up in knots with their doctrine of the Trinity as justification for considering Jesus of Nazareth as the authentic son of their monotheistic god.

As I explained in my previous post, they now find themselves in contradiction with the message of Saul of Tarsus' in Corinthians 6:9-10, that was paraphrased by Izzy in a graphic he posted on Instagram on April 10, 2019, as follows :

« WARNING: Drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, idolaters, Hell awaits you. Repent! Only Jesus saves ».

An obvious (but unlikely) alternative to the suggestion I made in my previous post (that Izzy should, perhaps, envisage a change of religion to one that does not have same-sex and fornicating divinities like Christianity), would be for Christian theologians to try to find a justification (for their belief in Jesus as the son of God) that is more compatible with the rest of the narrative of the bible, than the doctrine of the Trinity – at least, in its present form.

Of cource, the problem with that solution is that the bible narrative, itself, may be considered just as offensive by some people as Izzy's paraphrased version of paragraphs 9 and 10 of chapter 6 of Saul's first letter to the Corinthians. It is difficult to imagine that any court of justice in a modern, democratic society could find Izzy's version, posted on Instagram, more offensive than the original text published in the bible and distributed to millions of people throughout the world ever since Gutenberg invented the printing press in the 15th century.

If Izzy Folau's action is judged offensive, then the action of the publishers and distributers of the bible should also be judged offensive.

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