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Was Izzy Folau moral? : Comments
By Peter Bowden, published 1/7/2019Both sides can claim ( and fully believe) that they are virtuous, that they in the right, and the opposing viewpoint is in the wrong.
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Posted by OzSpen, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 7:49:46 PM
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OzSpen,
If judgement is with the courts and ultimately with God than Folau doesn't stand a chance. He'll lose on both counts. According to the law and morality. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 7:50:58 PM
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cont'd ...
The Jesus I know does not discriminate. Men do. As the Anglican archbishop has shown by his actions. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 7:53:08 PM
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Foxy,
<<If judgement is with the courts and ultimately with God than Folau doesn't stand a chance. He'll lose on both counts. According to the law and morality.>> That's a clear example of the fact you don't know Scripture and the warning God gives to unrepentant sinners. From your posts on OLO I note you refuse to examine many issues from God's perspective as declared in the Christian Scriptures. <<The Jesus I know does not discriminate. Men do. As the Anglican archbishop has shown by his actions>> The Jesus I know personally DOES discriminate. On Judgment Day, "All the people of the world will be gathered before him. Then he will separate everyone into two groups. It will be like a shepherd separating his sheep from his goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the king will say to the godly people on his right, ‘Come, my Father has great blessings for you. The kingdom he promised is now yours'.... Then the king will say to the evil people on his left, ‘Get away from me. God has already decided that you will be punished. Go into the fire that burns forever—the fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels'" (Matthew 25: 32-34, 41). These Scriptures declare that both you and the Anglican Archbishop promote false teaching. There is clear discrimination here. Take a read of the story in Luke 16 of the rich man and Lazarus. Again, Jesus discriminates on the destiny of believers and unbelievers. God's judgment on Izzy, the evangelical Christian, is on whether he was faithful to this Gospel call: "Tell everyone God’s message. Be ready at all times to do whatever is needed. Tell people what they need to do, tell them when they are doing wrong, and encourage them. Do this with great patience and careful teaching" (2 Timothy 4:2). Folau is on God's side and judgment is in his favour as he was faithfully doing it as a rugby player, not as a New Testament scholar. Posted by OzSpen, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 8:18:36 PM
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I really think you Christians are braindead morons sometimes sorry Ozspen.
Don't you realise that all you've done in supporting Israel Folau is to do the heavy lifting for your adversaries? Because if Israel has a legitimate right to say what he said; Then Muslims and Jews (under the 2st century religion of EQUALITY) will also have a legitimate right to say their stuff. And their stuff is far more hostile than yours: Kill infidels and rule over Goyim. You're against homosexuals, but you Christians just raised a hell of a lot of money for the right to bend over and pull your own butt-cheecks apart. It's almost as intelligent as taking a shotgun and blowing one of your legs off just for fun. Great Job. Now watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dXD2H0m74g Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 9:18:40 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg
"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." 25 Point Plan for World Domination 1. Use violence and terrorism rather than academic discussions. 2. Preach “Liberalism” to usurp political power. 3. Initiate class warfare. 4. Politicians must be cunning and deceptive – any moral code leaves a politician vulnerable. 5. Dismantle “existing forces of order and regulation.” Reconstruct all existing institutions.” 6. Remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it. 7. Use Mob Psychology to control the masses. “Without absolute despotism one cannot rule efficiently.” 8. Advocate the use of alcoholic liquors, drugs, moral corruption and all forms of vice, used systematically by “agenteurs” to corrupt the youth. 9. Seize properties by any means to secure submission and sovereignty. 10. Foment wars and control the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants gains territory placing them further in debt and therefore into our power. 11. Choose candidates for public office who will be “servile and obedient to our commands, so they may be readily used as pawns in our game.” 12. Use the Press for propaganda to control all outlets of public information, while remaining in the shadows, clear of blame. 13. Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors. 14. Create financial panics. Use hunger to control to subjugate the masses. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 9:23:55 PM
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<<believing in anything does not make it moral, And he was calling fro (sic) all those he was vilifying to go to hell,>>
No, Folau paraphrased God's warning in Scripture which states:
"Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were...." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
This is not vilification of sinners/wrongdoers but a warning of eternal consequences of their continuing sins. They will not inherit God's kingdom, i.e. they will go to hell = Hades/Gehenna.
I find it outrageous that you have turned a warning into vilification.