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Was Izzy Folau moral? : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 1/7/2019

Both sides can claim ( and fully believe) that they are virtuous, that they in the right, and the opposing viewpoint is in the wrong.

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Issy aside, allowing misgendered characters go around libaries and filling kids heads with absolute trash is a million times worse than statements from the bible. No wonder believers and unbelievers alike have donated to Issy's cause. Next we will have blokes dressed as girls serving the tea on qantas flights. Its bad enough that blokes are starting to clean up at women's sports events.
Posted by runner, Monday, 1 July 2019 4:04:51 PM
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"When does freedom of speech tip over into hate speech", asks Foxy?

It doesn't. Free speech is free speech.

What if right wing views were in the once again overwhelmingly mainstream and somebody said that advocating homosexual "rights or criticising Donald Trump or Pauline Hanson was "hate speech".

It works both ways, Foxy.

Either you recognise the absolute right of a free people to freely discuss any social issue at all without legal sanction, or you are just another fascist using force to shut down debate on topics you don't want to have discussed. You have become the very narrow minded, bigoted person that real liberal progressives from my generation once fought against.

When I was young my generation ran around screaming "freedom! freedom!" Now your generation runs around screaming "hate speech, censorship!" And you actually think that you are a progressive liberal?
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 1 July 2019 4:17:21 PM
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Misgendered characters going around libraries and filling
kids heads with ...? or
Qantas employees dressing as ...?

Now those are statements that prove that if you
find yourself preaching bigotry, intolerance or
hatred it really should all be on you.

And you really should not be able to
excuse it by saying you read it in a book.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 July 2019 4:22:18 PM
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Do the head honchos of High "let me at dem choirboys" Churches backup Izzy?

Speakin of "Onward Christian Soldiers" as they say in armies "Never leave your mate's behind!"
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 1 July 2019 4:34:38 PM
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Hear, hear and extremely well said, Foxy!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 1 July 2019 5:31:21 PM
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LEGO,

Free speech has never been about saying whatever
you want and being protected from the consequences
of what you say.

It's not absolute, and like any human right, free
speech carries with it responsibilities.

A recent story has revealed that social media posts
and emails today are at the centre of the majority of
defamation cases in Australia.

That means that ordinary people increasingly
find themselves defending defamation actions
in court often representing
themselves in complex and expensive area of law.

This is really an important issue on social media because
it's where cyber trolls, bullies, stalkers and revenge
posters are, and there's a whole bunch of hatred and
people are targeted, sometimes very personally.

The Folau case will be an interesting one in what the
courts decide.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 July 2019 5:46:39 PM
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