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The latest US anti-abortion laws are a response to judicial activism : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 24/5/2019

In my opinion judicial activism is not that much different to a (limited) bloodless coup d'état, except that there is no penalty potentially applying to offending judges.

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Did I say that ?!
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 10:57:02 AM
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Dear Loudmouth,

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No, you didn’t say that, Joe. I, [Ban-jo], did. I think it was meant for me. Runner probably simply forgot to Ban the Joe and drop the e.

As you may have noticed, Runner has been under quite a lot of pressure lately with all this discussion going on about his favourite subject. He’s been running around like a blue-tailed fly trying to keep up with it all and probably didn’t know whether he was coming or going.

I guess he got his wires crossed and had a slight glitch. But he should be OK now.

I’ll send him a message and see …
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Dear Runner,
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You wrote :
« believe it or not [Ban]Joe there are multitudes of women that are opposed to butchering unborn babies »

I don’t doubt that for one minute, Runner, and understand exactly how they feel. It sounds terrible. Thank goodness there are laws in the States and Territories of Australia that lay down strict conditions for the termination of pregnancy in the best possible, state of the art, medical conditions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq8HGr9Hyv0

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 1:38:35 AM
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Thanks, Banjoe :)
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 9:18:30 AM
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NNS,

You raise many valid points, which, taken in isolation, make a lot of sense. However, we live in a time when overcoming many of your identified contributors, or precursors, to unwanted pregnancies cannot easily be overcome, and may in fact be impossible to overcome – at least in the absence of a ‘second coming’ (which I reject as not only unlikely, but as an absolute impossibility – because I am neither deluded nor insane).

In a previous post you suggested that I must be anti-white, anti-Christian and anti-men. I hate to disappoint you, but I am white, a male (and ‘straight’ at that – not that such status should make any difference), and I am a Christian – or at least an educated one, who was raised as a Catholic but has divested the bulk of dogma in favour of an enlightened approach seeing all humankind as equal and equally worthy, and all life on Earth as our combined responsibility to care for and preserve – as God’s, or Evolution’s, gift to us all.

I cannot see how the Catholic Church can faithfully expect the flock not to use contraception, but still avoid unwanted pregnancies. I am not anti-men, but men can be ruthless when it comes to sex – both within and outside wedlock. And men can use all manner of ‘justification’ for domestic abuse – though abuse against anyone, and particularly against one’s spouse or ‘partner’, is an anathema, a sin, and totally unacceptable.
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 9:25:22 PM
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Continued:

Taken further, the Church refuses to recognize any ‘female’ as a potential priest, refuses to allow priests to get married, and expects priests to be totally celibate for all time. To remain totally celibate is a physical and psychological impossibility for a man (and probably also for a woman). So, the church must make exception for the occurrence of all spontaneous, unintentional eruptions of sexual expression. However, it would appear that the Church may also discount homosexual expression as being contrary to celibacy – per history.

Further, the Church offers confession as a means to absolve oneself of sin – subject to genuine ‘repentance’, and an intention not to re-offend. A ‘get free card’! Why? To allow priests a ‘way out’? (Including some past Popes.) Or as a means to gather a flock?

In the not too distant past there have been many instances of the Church setting out to punish any female disgusting enough to get pregnant out of wedlock – and parts of the anti-abortion movement appear intent on continuing this approach. The ‘sinful’ must of course be punished!
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 9:25:45 PM
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Continued:

To place things in perspective: we kill and eat fish, cows, pigs, etc – even though we know they have a brain and can feel anguish and pain. And, they are alive, sensing and feeling when we kill them. Humankind has taken charge of the Earth and all its inhabitants, as self-appointed ‘rulers’ of all they survey. But, could this really be God’s plan? What God or ‘nature’ intended? The Earth is a gift, and humankind is a miracle. But there have been, and continue to be, some humans who refuse to acknowledge Homo Erectus, Homo Habilis, Neanderthal, and any other precursors or co-existents to Homo Sapiens – and some who still erroneously and doggedly view some ‘coloured’ peoples as ‘lesser’ than themselves.

Maybe God ‘created’ the Universe and all it contains, by some intervention, but those who refuse to accept the very long existence of the Universe and the evolution of everything can only be regarded by any sane educated person as either totally brainwashed or irretrievably stupid. God may have taken six indeterminate ‘days’, but we live in the 7th, and God is undeniably sleeping. (Else, the heavens would erupt in hell and brimstone.)

The world is overrun by humankind, in various states of existence and belief, and it must be accepted that the Earth cannot sustain, nor should have to sustain, the unconstrained exponential proliferation of humanity. Such can only be a blight, an infestation, at the absolute expense of all other of God’s gifts, which humankind is supposed to appreciate, wonder at, and preserve. On current projections, life is due to get very harsh indeed.

The euthanasia of some unborn embryos or foetuses at a very early stage of development has to be accepted as the price so-called ‘developed’ societies have to pay for past and present sins against the planet, against humankind, and against any will to constrain self-indulgence. We may praise, but very many fail to properly appreciate.

I remain in hope that the Church will finally ‘get it’ and ‘get with it’, for the good of us all.

I wish you peace.
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 9:25:52 PM
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