There is not much point in banning abortion if the abortee is "not to be held "criminally culpable or civilly liable". Alabaman politicians are even sillier than lot

Folk like judges and politicians who are unquestionably quarantined fro the consequences of their decisions. Energy policy, tax reform, social justice, affordable housing, SSM "RELIGIOUS FREEDOM" etc etc. Often make the worst possible decisions for the worst possible reasons or even worse!?

Thus here in Oz, we see some politicians trying to conflate the recent election results as a backlash against SSM. And the alleged loss of religious freedom! WHAT A LOAD OF CROCK!

A woman's body is hers. Not those deciding who can penetrate and impregnate it and often even in so-called marriage, against her will and or, without informed consent!

Yet in some circumstances, complete strangers as elected officials charged with their care, decide that so-called Christian care includes forcing the unwilling incubator to go full term!

And to add injury to insult, expect her with rare calloused indifference only comparable in Nazi-controlled Germany, to foot all the medical care cost and child raising financial burdens!

The newly elected government could put a few essential Senators so far offside if they try to reverse SSM and it's consequences of formerly allowed discrimination and persecution, to create for them a hostile senate.

Those now attending Christiaan churches and like SM, claiming to know the mind of God, are less than 10% of the population and in the SSM debate have been and remain a very (mentally) disturbed tail trying to wag the dog!

And thanks to an inept and arrogant Labor front bench and campaign, now have their backstabbing champion now ensconced in the lodge!

WELL DONE THOU GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANTS!
Alan B.

wow it appears in America that the younger generation have far more courage than those of us over the last 50 years. They actually care about then unborn babies and mental state of women unlike the butchers ensuring their quotas for planned parenthood. The fools talk about it being a womens body. It is actually the babies body that is butchered.

The death toll in less advantaged communities in women is as a consequence of labour and giving birth. And aftermath consequences, bleeding to death!.

All to often the result of pregnancy when they are still children! And as such has no element of informed consent. runner seems to think that the rights of the undeveloped fetus outweigh those of the coscripted incubator. And patently not so in incest, rape or the victim of clerical child sex abuse!

At no time in any of his postings has this religious fanatic expressed even the slightest concern for the welfare of the pregnant mum nor wether her financial circumstances allow anything other than a life of deprivation and misery for the unwanted child. And his church possibly is the same church that until recently, forbade contraceptives!

As heartless every which way as the Nazi war criminals with self-evident lack of compassion to everyone except the unborn child.

And that then includes unwanted deprived kids sentenced to a virtual lifetime of misery to then become the largest cohort in our prison system!

In my view, demonstrates an IQ roughly equal to the ambient temperature. Plus, rare calloused indifference!

You'll have a nice day now y'hear.
Alan B.

There must be a rigorous separation of Church and State, to protect the fundamental rights of all citizens (including their rights to reasonable privacy and to self-determination), and thereby to ensure non-discrimination, inclusiveness, tolerance and equality.

This separation must necessarily include the separation of Church and Judiciary. Judicial findings and rulings should only be made on the basis of merit - free from bias, but not free from universal strictures of conscience, morality and integrity.

"There is a right way and a wrong way to determine legal solutions to controversial moral issues."

Neither Church nor 'Religion' can or ought be permitted or enabled to dictate universal social mores - as, Churches are notoriously inconsistent and unreliable in this determination.

Morality, ethics, integrity, honesty, virtue and justice may only be determined reliably by the clear and unbiased application of logic to the question of what constitutes the best interests of the citizenry and of the State, the Nation and the World.

We see all too clearly around the world what can be the resultants of an inordinate influence by 'Religion' in affairs of State, affairs of the Judiciary, and in the affairs of the citizenry. (Child brides, FGM, Honour Killing, discrimination, war, conflict, terrorism, forced migration, despotism, outlandish judicial inconsistency and bias, and so much more.)

Why should the rights of an unborn foetus outweigh the rights of a woman to choose whether or not she may be advantaged or seriously disadvantaged by giving birth?

How can any honest moral code determine that contraception is bad?

How can any honest moral code determine that Men have greater rights than Women?

Justice is everyone's responsibility - in clear honest conscience, unbiased by adherence to dogma.

I look forward to the day when men can have children as well as women: perhaps some sort of implants.

If some men are so concerned about embryos, they can go through the nine months, and then the labour, and then the eighteen years of child-care. And then try to catch up on their careers.

Joe