david f,

<<There is not one Christian viewpoint. Many Christians support our present laws which provide for a legal abortion by a medical practitioner. Many Christians would repeal those laws.>>

Please define what you mean by Christian in those 2 sentences.

Dear OzSpen,

A Christian is any one who identifies as a Christian whatever their belief or opinion is. There is no authority in Christendom which determines what all Christians should believe or how they should behave. There are something like 24,000 different Christian sects with various beliefs and many other people who call themselves Christian and belong to no church. People of some Christian sects believe their version of Christianity should be what all Christians follow. One of the good things about Christianity is that there is not one size that fits all. Some Christians call other Christians who do not believe what they believe heretics. That is narrow and intolerant. I am not a Christian, and I am not going to differentiate among Christians and say that some Christians are true Christians and others are not. However, I think if anyone takes literally all the stories of miracles, God in three parts, virgin birth and all the other doctrines found in Christendom their religion becomes a silly superstition. However, even if they follow a silly superstition they are still Christians. I think most Christians are broader than that.

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Dear Not Now Soon,

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You wrote :

« I do not see any rejection of these words [“abortion”, “embryo”, “fetus” and “baby”] by myself or by Ttbn or a Runner »

Here are the instances where you refer to an embryo or a fetus as a baby or a child. I could do a similar list for ttbn and runner but it’s a bit laborious :

« Because killing your baby before it's born is easier! » (Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Saturday, 11 May 2019 7:18:55 PM)

Before it’s born, a baby is a fetus.
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Yuyutsu wrote to you :

« … I would have preferred my body to be killed over a life of severe disability and would have thanked my mother if she aborted my body as early as she could »

You replied :

« To choose to kill a baby or a young child is a horrific choice … Killing a child is never a solution » (Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 12 May 2019 2:39:57 AM)

A fetus is killed, not a baby/child.
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Yuyutsu wrote to you :

« The notion of "tragic" is Western/Greek/humanistic, based on human preferences rather than on religion. While the family of the deceased often perceives his/her death as tragic, never so the deceased him/herself … Most abortions are probably on selfish grounds, thus sinful, but to what extent? are they more sinful then say, killing and eating a mature cow? or kitchen-insects, compared with a foetus that is still less even developed than an insect?

At times, however, abortion is carried out on altruistic grounds (have you seen the clip I referred you to?) »

You replied to David f :

« For your children, I can no more agree with your view that it'd be better if they weren't born, then I can agree with Yuyutsu's view that children dying are not a tragic event » (Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 13 May 2019 3:20:44 AM)

It’s not “children dying”, it’s “foetuses”.

Also, life does not “start” at conception. It is "relayed" at conception.

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david f,

<<A Christian is any one who identifies as a Christian whatever their belief or opinion is. There is no authority in Christendom which determines what all Christians should believe or how they should behave.>>

That is nothing more than your personal opinion.

There IS an authority for beliefs regarding who is a Christian. That authority is the Judeo-Christian Scriptures: "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness...." (2 Timothy 3:16).

In those Scriptures the good news of the Gospel that is accepted by Christians is identified: "When you sin, the pay you get is death. But God gives you the gift of eternal life. That’s because of what Christ Jesus our Lord has done" (Romans 6:23).

There is a God-breathed authority for Christian faith: 'All Scripture".

Interesting question - who is a Christian?

To put in my 2 cents, a Christian is one who, following Jesus Christ, is willing, if called upon, to even lose their life on the cross or incur an equivalent painful death for their love of God and others.

This makes the number of Christians very small. I certainly do not qualify.

To claim that identifying as a Christian is sufficient to be a Christian, is like claiming that identifying as Napoleon is sufficient to be Napoleon.

Yuyutsu,

<<To put in my 2 cents, a Christian is one who, following Jesus Christ, is willing, if called upon, to even lose their life on the cross or incur an equivalent painful death for their love of God and others.>>

From where did you obtain that information about what a Christian is?

You have left the message of John 3:3-5 out of your definition,

"Jesus replied [to Nicodemus], “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again [born from above], you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”

“What do you mean?” exclaimed Nicodemus. “How can an old man go back into his mother’s womb and be born again?”

'Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit"'.