david f,

You continue to ignore the fact that there are 4 different types of Ad Hominem logical fallacies and you only acknowledged 1. See my response, Posted by OzSpen, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 8:37:17 AM, for an explanation of all 4.

When will your narrative coincide with the facts of what you write?

Please own up to it David. You got it wrong with knowing only one Ad Hominem logical fallacy.

Back to the topic: Does it matter if abortion kills babies?

Yes it does. Actions have consequences. Infanticide in the womb is an example of gross slaughter of human beings.

Why should people condemn ISIS with its slaughter of adults around the world when we sanction killing human beings in Australia?

Thank you, Graham Preston, for standing up for those who can't stand up for themselves.

Hi Ttbn,

Earlier, you wrote that (among other forms of life) an egg (you mean woman's ovum ?) came within the definition of a child. Did you mean an unfertilised ovum ?

I'm just trying to establish parameters on what constitutes a living human being. To include an unfertilised ovum seems a rather broad definition.

Joe

Loudmouth,

According to the Cleveland Clinic,

"On average, fertilization occurs about two weeks after your last menstrual period. When the sperm penetrates the egg, changes occur in the protein coating around it to prevent other sperm from entering. At the moment of fertilization, your baby's genetic make-up is complete, including its sex.

"If a Y sperm fertilizes the egg, your baby will be a boy; if an X sperm fertilizes the egg, your baby will be a girl", http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/7247-fetal-development-stages-of-growth.

The medical/biological evidence points to fertilisation/conception as the beginning of baby boy or girl life.

Joe wants to play dumb while unborn babies with 2 arms, 2 legs, a heart and every other organ is torn to pieces in abortions. Come on Joe no one is that stupid.

good to see Hollywood deviants calling for a ban on sex. Certainly would cut down on the murder rate however I suspect they will preach one thing and do another as usual.

Dear OzSpen,

I have not associated you with the mentally ill by calling your Christian belief a nutty idea. Many sane people have nutty ideas. I appreciate your educating me as to the varieties of ad hominem. However, it is still my opinion that your Christian belief is silly superstition. My opinion is neither fallacious reasoning nor ad hominem. I am happy to live in a civilised country where I am not liable to be burned at the stake for stating the opinion that Christian belief is a silly superstition. You refer to Bishop Spong as a heretic. Are you an authority that can define another Christian as a heretic? Bishop Spong realises as I do that the beliefs if taken literally are silly superstitions. To preserve Christianity in the light of reason he considers the beliefs as metaphors and symbolic. I see no need to preserve Christianity and think the world will be better for its disappearance. Let it go the way of Manichaeism, the Greek and Roman pantheon and other religions that no longer exist.