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Spiritual supposition : Comments

By Ian Nance, published 18/4/2019

Some religions fool themselves. Can't they see that personal behavior, ethics, and morality all dwell in the domain of the individual?

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Ponder, you say, "Ethics can be a moral matter but nonetheless remains a personal one, therefore attempts should not be made to assign that individual knowledge to other individuals, or indeed, a group".

Are you saying that if a person decides that murder is wrong they should not tell other individuals or groups that murder is wrong? ("attempts should not be made to assign that individual knowledge to other individuals, or indeed, a group")

Really? Do you see morality as being totally relativistic? Each individual should just decide for themselves what is right and wrong?
Posted by JP, Thursday, 18 April 2019 2:50:50 PM
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JP - what I am saying is that the results of actions are observable, and used to formulate personal response. Rightness or wrongness are subjective intangibles.
Posted by Ponder, Thursday, 18 April 2019 3:11:26 PM
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The self-centered belief that "Rightness or wrongness are subjective intangibles."

fails to recall that we live in an interdependent/social world.

Otherwise some Trumpist loony with a gun may think its "Right. According to his values" to go out and kill people.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 18 April 2019 4:03:49 PM
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Meanwhile does christian-ism have anything to do with Truth & Reality?
Obviously not!

These essays provide a unique criticism of the naive childish even infantile mind-set at the root of the christian mommy-daddy creator-"God".
http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/parental_deity/index.html
http://www.aboutadidam.org/readings/religious_ambivalence/index.html

This essay describes the narcissistic nature of conventional exoteric religiosity http://www.dabase.org/up-1-6.htm

This essay provides a comprehensive critique of the historically dominant "great" religions http://www.dabase.org/up-1-2.htm

This essay describes the profound difference between institutional exoteric religiosity and the potential profundities of Esoteric Spiritual Religion http://www.dabase.org/up-1-5.htm

This reference describes the root-principle of esoteric Spiritual Religion http://www.beezone.com/sadhana.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 18 April 2019 8:15:58 PM
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Quote from the article:

<<It is also disturbing to realise that religions are based around a mistaken belief in the supposed existence of one, or more, supreme beings having some perceived power to control the destiny of believers.>>

Ian, you were so close too. You actually acknowledged that genuine believers can be role models and great people. That's farther then some make it in similar philosophy. But then it went down hill from there. God does exist. That's the plain truth of the situation. Everything after this quote is heavily based on the mistaken assumption that God can't exist. Get rid of that foundation and it all falls apart. Sorry but true.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 19 April 2019 12:44:35 AM
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See real life CRUCIFIXION AT EASTER

A celebration of death by a violent act that launched Christianity, launched many religious wars, Northern Ireland's "troubles" and Pell.

Behold you sinners! http://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 19 April 2019 12:35:29 PM
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