Banjo,

<<Belief is not evidence. Belief is subjective. Evidence is objective, i.e., independent of ideas concerning it.>>

Both you and david f takes the same position, <<Belief is not evidence>>: Posted by david f, Thursday, 18 April 2019 9:42:50 PM

Belief based on historical evidence is not subjective but the result of historical investigation of the available evidence. I believe Hitler and the Nazis slaughtered about 6.5 million people (mostly Jews) in the prison camps. My belief is based on an examination of the historical evidence. I was born after the war. My belief in Hitler is NOT subjective, but based on historical evidence.

If I do not have evidence for God's existence, I do not have foundational facts on which to ground my faith. See Hebrews 11:6, 'Without faith it is impossible to please God. Those who come to God must believe that he exists. And they must believe that he rewards those who look to him'.

I've told you previously, but you overlook it or don't take it seriously:

19 The truth about God is plain to them [godless people]. God has made it plain. 20 Ever since the world was created it has been possible to see the qualities of God that are not seen. I’m talking about his eternal power and about the fact that he is God. Those things can be seen in what he has made. So people have no excuse for what they do" (Romans 1:19-20).

There you have the evidence stated in specific terms:

+ The truth about God is plain to godless, evil people. Where?

+ You can see the qualities / attributes of God. God has made it plain to them.

+ God's eternal power and facts about God's existence are SEEN in what he has made (creation).

+ That leaves all those who are hostile to God because of their godlessness WITHOUT EXCUSE when they stand before God (at death).

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Banjo,
Christian apologist and Lutheran theologian John Warwick Montgomery wrote: 'Lose the Bible and you lose the best evidence for God; defend the Bible and you discover "many infallible proofs" for the salvation revealed once for all through the death and resurrection of His Son (Acts 1:3)' (Faith Founded on Fact. Trinity Press 1978:xiii).

My belief in Jesus Christ for salvation is NOT subjective but is based on the objective historical evidence of the OT and NT, especially on the passion of Jesus.

You can't seem to get your head around the evidence that Christian faith is founded on facts.

You say the Bible <<was written within the context of the historical events of the day. If it is to be considered accurate and true, the events recorded in it should correspond with the recorded historical events outside of it.>>

That's only ONE of the tests historians use to check the veracity of any document, including the Bible. Why have you left the others out?

Dear OzSpen,

"I have never said anything against fairies, unicorns, Santa Claus, elves, griffins, Satan, God, Harry Potter or any other creation of the human imagination."

The above does not ridicule God any more than it ridicules fairies, unicorns, Santa Claus, elves, griffins, Satan or Harry Potter. God is no more real than the other entities mentioned. I don't have to respect your God or your belief system. You are unreasonable to expect me to do so. You are a human being. If I met you I would treat you with kindness and consideration. However, I have no obligation to treat your religious fantasies with kindness or consideration.

No faith, Christian or other, is founded on fact. Belief is not fact. I accept the fact that you sincerely believe. God in three parts, virgin birth, someone dying for the sins of others, transubstantiation and immaculate conception are some of the nonsense that Christianity is burdened with. Jesus is also nonsense. If God is omniscient, omnipotent and benevolent he doesn't need a sidekick

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Dear OzSpen,

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Belief in historical evidence and proclaiming belief as historical evidence is not the same thing
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I’m afraid this conversation is becoming quite ridiculous.

If you don’t mind, I’m signing off.

I wish you and yours a very happy and peaceful Easter.

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Dear OzSpen,

The Bible which you characterised as a 'reliable' document has many inconsistencies. The following points you to a list containing 700 of them.

https://www.cs.umd.edu/~mvz/bible/bible-inconsistencies.pdf