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Reading The Koran : Comments

By Laurence Maher, published 11/4/2019

The Australian National Imams Council should state publicly that, when it comes to the law, in Australia Islam is no different from any other religion when it comes to the law

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Is MIse,

What you don't know is the problem!

But in this country - you're not alone with
having that problem.

In our history books you get - "The First Fleet arrived.
It brought 1000 English convicts."

It didn't. It brought 1000 convicts but probably they came
from a dozen different countries. English jails were no
respecters of nationality. The first Italian arrived on
January 26, 1788 - Giuseppe Tuso. There were people
from South Africa, there were people from Ceylon, from
India, from Spain, from Portugal, from Hungary.

And what they carried in their hearts - we can only
speculate.

The only way (as I've argued many times) that our freedom
and tolerance can be protected is within a legal framework
that is accepted by all.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 April 2019 6:32:11 PM
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cont'd ...

At the time of the 2011 Census, 476,000 Australians
(representing 2.2% of the population) reported Islam
as their religion. And I imagine that not all of
them are extremists, fanatics, or fundamentalists.

Not a big threat it would appear.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 April 2019 6:41:10 PM
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I love it when people quote stats.
As I have said before, we don't know who are the baddies, and until they do something bad, they are just people like the rest of us.
But surely, I ask the question, how is it we have accepted a race who have been 'groomed' to kill non-Muslims, all their life?
I obviously hope that they have renounced their adherence to the teachings of the Koran, and truly wish to integrate into the Aussie life.
Sadly, the evidence to date is not good.
There is too much being exposed and being enacted by people and govts which are disturbing and show a clear trend to non assimilation.
I don't recall ANY other race, Vietnamese, Chinese, and so on, who forced themselves upon us to remove our signs of our christian faith so as to accommodate them.
No, if we are to accept them they must first accept us and respect our views, values and religion, otherwise we are not being true to ourselves and our children and their future.
I am angered, not so much because some cretin demands we remove statues of our faith, this I expect from a lesser person.
No what I am really pissed off about is that some moronic, simple minded, gutless toe-rag, actually facilitated them and complied.
I would thrash the living daylights out of him, or her.
How dare this kind of thing be allowed here, and in this day and age.
What is this 800 AD?
This only adds to my disgust about this country and it'a morons within.
Where was the rally?
Where was the opposition?
'Nah, she'll be right, turn up the footy and get me another tinny'.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 19 April 2019 10:36:41 PM
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Foxy,

The first Negroes also came on the First Fleet and one of them was drowned saving the life of a fellow convict.
Our first real hero was a Negro.

There is no mention of Muslims on the Fleet, there were no doubt diseases but none of the mind to compare with Islam.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 19 April 2019 10:36:48 PM
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Is Mise,

Muslims in Australia have a long and varied history
that is thought to predate European settlement.
You can learn more by Googling "History of Islam
in Australia."

As for "diseases of the mind?"

Violence is not new to the history of religions,
nor is it a phenomenon solely attached to the
history of Islam.

Christianity and other religions also have a track
record of fanaticism. You have only to look at the
current occurrences of the Christchurch massacre,
the bombing of abortion clinics, the hardliner
Buddhists in Myanmar and so on.

Religious content may be a catalyst for violent action,
but it should be remembered that its reading relies
heavily on human interpretation. To put it mildly,
"the world is bleeding to death through misunderstanding."

Of course it can never be right to kill in the name of
God - but it should be dawning on all peoples that it is
time to let go of pretensions that anyone knows the
will of God.

Rather than listening to the claims and counter claims
about what "authentic" Islam really stands for, we might be
better to pay more attention to how the vast majority of
advocates of their faith choose to live their
lives.

The enemy of peace is not religion, but those who pursue
acts of terror and violence against the innocent in the
"name" of religion.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 April 2019 5:15:36 PM
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It is now a matter of record.
Germany, amongst other European countries have announced that their migration and humanitarian policy have failed.
The elephant in the room has finally been allowed to speak, and it has denounced the intake of Muslims.
The evidence is overwhelming and growing day by day, and the fact that it has become untenable.
The alleged risk to the non-Muslim public has now become a reality and can no longer be ignored.
We see Muslims berating a judge, whilst in court responding to some charge, blatantly tells the judge that they do not have to abide by our laws because they only follow the laws of Allah. (or was it Muhammad)
Then we see another mob spitting and throwing rocks at reporters trying to ask about a property which is being turned into a religious entity, against shire and zoning regulations.
And the abuse goes on.
If my detractors on OLO truly believe that my attitude is worse than these people, then we all have a problem.
At least I can see the difference between right and wrong.
The do-gooders and the bad Muslims don't want to see the right from wrong.
One lot are too naive to save themselves, and the other are too brainwashed to be of any use to themselves, or anyone else for that matter.
No I am now just waiting for the penny to drop so as the govt admits they too cocked it up and shuts the door on these people, before we too suffer some major life threatening catastrophe.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 20 April 2019 7:13:52 PM
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