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Reading The Koran : Comments

By Laurence Maher, published 11/4/2019

The Australian National Imams Council should state publicly that, when it comes to the law, in Australia Islam is no different from any other religion when it comes to the law

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Islam has a history of violence.
Muslims can be violent. Denying this is just as
false as sayin g that Islam is peaceful and that
all Muslims are peaceful. The dichotomy is simply
false.

The Qur'an contains injunctions that call both for
peace and for violence. The problem is not that they
are there: the difficulty is that non-violent and
militant Muslims appear equally justified.

For some the peace of God is through his sword -
for others it is found in his unbounded mercy.
Part of the problem is that there are concerns about
religious content that are not dealt with openly.

And there are just too many hard conclusions made
about religious texts, often by those who know less than
they claim.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 April 2019 7:45:03 PM
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I hope my detractors have read these comments.
I have been fuming at the, now most obvious, of moronic statements by someone who is so fragile and easily offended, that I once again am vindicated by my statements about stupid people, and how it is nigh-on impossible to convince them they are wrong.
I can't wear fools easily, and believe me, I am a very patient man, I have to be to be on OLO.
I moved away from religion many years ago, when it became obvious to me that it was simply a medium of controlling weak minded people and a great revenue source.
These so called 'religions', are in fact cults.
Unless I get physical and actual contact from something spiritual, (and I don't mean liquor) I am going to keep believing in the one person I know very well and know that he has a real grasp on reality, he is a pragmatist, looks at things objectively, not subjectively, and sometimes even relies on a gut feeling because he has considered all the known information.
That person is; MYSELF!
Now about all this malaise and discussion about what is patently obvious to any intelligent thinking man, and that is; ISLAM is a bad thing!
End of.
It is a violent and sick cult which is clearly unlike ANY other group or cult, to-date.
I would have allowed the Muslims who 'genuinely' renounce their faith in Islam, entry into Australia.
Otherwise I see the blanket approval of 'any' Muslims into 'any' non-Muslim country in a similar vain to allowing a known 'hit-man' or someone carrying weapons into the country.
We have restrictions on people we consider a threat to others, so why are these people who have made it clear, that they are groomed to kill us, at a moments notice, been welcomed with open arms?
On the topic of law over religion, I am recovering from a laughing bout at the comments that religion can in some cases over-ride the country's laws.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 14 April 2019 7:55:57 PM
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ALTRAV,

"I would have allowed the Muslims who 'genuinely' renounce their faith in Islam, entry into Australia."

But how do you tell the genuine from the ones who are lying?
It is permissible for Muslims to lie in order to further the cause of Islam.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 19 April 2019 4:22:03 PM
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Criminals come in all religions, etnicities, races,
genders, et cetera. We were after all -
founded as a penal colony.
We've had our fair share of crims over the decades.
Crims of all persuasions, from bushrangers, corrupt
government officials and police, to
Asian triads, to mafia crime syndicates, to the
good old underbelly of crime families, but hey - it's
Good Friday - so lets go out and attack the Muslims.
It's the Christian thing to do.
After all they're all - bad, sad, mean, and extreme.
And who knows better than the Christians about sin,
hell and damnation - right?

As for not allowing Muslim criminals and extremists
into Australia? That's not going to work - especially
if you've got enough influence and money honey.
Just as Philip Ruddock - or better still - where
do donations to political parties come from?
Any Saudis on that list?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 April 2019 4:59:08 PM
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Foxy,

"Criminals come in all religions, etnicities [ethnicities], races,
genders, et cetera. We were after all -
founded as a penal colony."

But, as far as I know, none of the First Fleeters were carrying a Holy Book that exhorted them to kill.

Bye the way, Foxy, Grammarly is a free download.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 19 April 2019 6:09:42 PM
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cont'd ...

The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) released
the data that 40,577 people were in prisons in
Australia during the first quarter of 2017.
This is up from 25,968 - ten years ago.

I looked up notorious gangsters in Australia and
names like - Squizzy Taylor, Tilly Devine,
Kate Leigh, George Wallace, Abe Saffron, Stewart John
Regan, Chopper Read, Christopher Flannery, George
Freeman, Alphonse Gangitano, The Moran Family, Carl
Williams, Mike Gatto, The Pettingill Family, Tony
Mokbel came up. Not an Abdul or a Mohammad amongst
them. Funny that. Perhaps Muslims are not such
a big threat after all?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 April 2019 6:15:45 PM
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