Foxy,

Considering that the shooter only spent about 6 weeks in Aus in the last few years, and the indications are that he was radicalised in Europe and not here.

This means that all the wailing from the left whingers on this site about Islamophobia in Aus being the cause is a pile of bollocks.

Secondly Sadiq Khan like Waleed also tried to normalise terrorism as just something city dwellers must get used to.

Note that recently there has been a bombing of a cathedral in Jakarta by muslims with 20 dead and 200 christians killed in Nigeria by Muslims and not one peep from the left whingers.

While this is a tragedy perpetrated by a monster, it is only one of many most of which are ignored.

Shadow Minister,

What needs to be examined and not ignored is
that there is a white nationalist movement that is spreading worldwide pushing lone-wolf attacks. The live-streamed
massacre of now 50 in New Zealand mosques underlines the
reach of the movement that preaches imagined "European
ideals" which rejects immigration and shares vicious
threats and attacks over the internet. You only have to
look at Mr Anning's comments, and those of some here on the
forum, of people like Blair Cottrell and Neil Erikson, et al,
to see what's happening here.

The whole point being made is that - as Waleed Aly stated
in part of his speech '

"We must urgently make a case for a new humanist politics
in which your character and humanity count for more than
your religion, skin colour, and heritage. The war of
identities must end, whether its in public life or blood
stained places of worship."

Foxy,

There have always been left and right wing extremists, and for the most part they limit themselves to minor things like walking around with flags or signs, or go for minor violence like leaving a pigs head or egging someone.

When the government becomes more left whinge, the extremists on the right get more vocal, when the government is conservative the extremists on the left get more vocal. In Europe many governments have swung to the left with Merkel essentially issuing an open invitation to illegal immigrants and with Islamist violence a backlash was predictable.

The question is not what will those on the fringe do? If one stops them having a say, they will probably express themselves in a different manner.

The problem is that our authorities are scared speechless that this could be the start of a civil war. They know full well how violent many Muslims are & are scared of retaliatory attacks by Muslims, as has happened in many parts of the world.

They also know that ANZACS in particular, are slow to real anger & response, but are probably the most dangerous of all citizens once properly aroused. Any retaliatory attack by Muslims now would lead to a major reaction by ordinary citizens. Beirut here we come?

They also know that despite attempts to feminise the defence forces, ours would not support any action by government against citizens.

It is this fear that led to the disgusting sight of that silly little girl in NZ donning a black headscarf, & making a fool of herself.

It is a major worry that this bloke could get to the stage to do this, & not be on the radar of either countries security people. Perhaps we need to do some work on improving our security systems & people.

Shadow Minister,

Totally agree.

Hasbeen,

"It is a major worry that this bloke could get to the stage to do this, & not be on the radar of either countries security people. Perhaps we need to do some work on improving our security systems & people."

Spot on, security has egg on its collective face.