Cardinal Francis George famously said, referencing the rise of aggressive secularism: ‘“I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history” (A Quadrant Online reader.)

It appears that we have reached stage two.

Perhaps because the helpless-victimhood-mentality is a modern/progressive fashion, which conservatives have not caught up with? Responsibility for one's emotions is no longer in fashion and only conservatives still seem to believe in it.

Perhaps because the panicked witch-hunt against man-child contacts (not necessarily sexual, because no adult male can nowadays take the risk of being seen near a child) has torn up families and intergenerational connections, as well as denied children access to the wisdom of older male role-models? Family and intergenerational connections are valued by conservatives but shunned by progressives, who would rather separate children from their elders and have them raised by single mothers so it becomes easier for them to indoctrinate such children in their "educational" institutes.

Elsewhere today Foxy opined..."Trump got elected because of a faulty electoral system that badly needs fixing in the US. "

The system produced a result Foxy doesn't like...therefore...the system must be changed.

Here..."He's gone through our legal process and has been found guilty."

The system produced a result Foxy does like....therefore...we all need to just accept it.

Is it just me or is there a whiff of double standard there.

Is Mise,

The first jury did not acquit Pell. He was not in any sense
cleared by the failure to reach a verdict. The first jury
could not reach a unanimous vote or a 11-1 majority
verdict. The second trial found Pell guilty. It was a
unanimous verdict of all 12 jurors.

mhaze,

Goodness me you're following me around discussions with
the same postings. I must have really got up your nose.
Either that or you're simply trying to provoke.

The American electoral system was established on the basis
of allocating the number of electoral votes proportionally
to the population in the state. Over decades the movement
of the population and migration increased the size of the
population in the Western States exceeding the population in the
Mid Western states but proportionally the number of electoral
votes in the Western States was never adjusted in proportion
to the population.

Therefore the Western states being predominantly Democratic and
collecting 3 million more votes for the Democratic candidate in
the last election they lost the election because of the
electoral voting system not being adjusted over the past
decades. And that's how Mr Trump won.

It had nothing to do with my likes or dislikes.

As for our legal system and the conviction of Cardinal Pell?
Again - this has nothing to do with my likes or dislikes either.
Cardinal Pell may not have received justice in your eyes.
However I have faith in the integrity of our legal system.
The Appeal is going ahead. I believe that the Cardinal has that
right and it will be treated appropriately.

However, the disregard that is being shown to the jury and
the disrespect that is being shown to victims by this
public commentary is quite extraordinary and frankly it should
stop. I really expected more from you.

G'day Hazey

Foxey is of course correct.

Russia certainly gamed the US Electoral System to put Russia's boy Trump in the Presidency.

Trump (Russia's Manchurian Candidate)[1] is, of course, an Agent of Influence [2] for Russia.

Trump's limited brain capacity has been remodelled to wreck the Western Alliance, as well as soiling Truth, Justice and the Yankee Way.

[1] http://www.dictionary.com/e/politics/manchurian-candidate/

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_of_influence

BTW Hazey

Further to Foxy being infallible.

Trump phoned me Again last night, begging for advice as usual...

Anyways Donald said that, while he knows he shouldn't comment on Australian matters, he uttered.

"Pete, my boss bwana, 6 years for Pell is too little, too late."

"And check out my latest Youtube http://youtu.be/vlxmiFF85yU "

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