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Intolerant intolerance : Comments

By Spencer Gear, published 21/2/2019

Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance.

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Lego

'Why are you not obeying God's direct instruction and either killing "witches" ( or self declared "wiccans") yourself, or at least petitioning your elected representatives to have officials do the job on God's behalf?'

simply because I am not an Israelite living under the old covenant.

'Since you dodged the question last time, do you want me to answer it for you?'

I did? I mentioned that all sin leads to death. Adultery deserves death, fornication deserves death, lying deserves death, witchcraft deserves death, perversion deserves death. Thats the bad news. The good news is that Christ took our punishment for all those things. Pigs in a pig pen don't realise how disgusting they are. If God is God and truley holy and righteous then He decides whatn is right and wrong. His Word certainly contains much much more wisdom than what you or anyone else has written on olo.

'It is because even though you never question God's judgement (because part of your brain's critical analyses circuit is in suspended animation) you know that expressing such an opinion would discredit your religion even more than advocating for the existence of a flat Earth, an Earth centred universe, or claiming that the universe was created in six days. '

No because you either naively or dishonestly ignore the fact that Israel was given instructions on laws for their covevant while the new covenant ushered in Jesus Christ who was a fulfilment of all law. I am not a Jew on the old Jewish law. tbc
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 3:47:52 PM
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Also you say that my faith is descredited by believing God created the earth in 6 days. The fantasy of believeing something from nothing, denying laws require a Lawmaker and that creation demands a Creator is takes far more faith and much pseuso science to believe. I am still waiting for revision 8805 of the missing link and further changes to dishonest fraudulent science text books. Strangley the warmist religion now uses the same dishonest tacts on you as evolutionist have used on creationist. You might call it karma but it is a biblical principal that you reap what you sow. Science by no way disproves creation and in fact supports it far more than the fantasy of evolution which really is the mother of frauds.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 3:48:14 PM
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LEGO,

<<How many innocents died horribly because of your stupid God's idiotic instruction, nobody knows.>>

There you go with another red herring that did not address what I wrote about witchcraft and its consequences that happen around the world.

Your blasphemy against God is noted.
Posted by OzSpen, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 6:05:23 PM
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To LEGO.

You explained absolutist better. However I would actually argue that you remove absolutist as part of your reasoning. Let me explain.

For instance look at witches. The history of witches is full of accusations of being a witch, with the accusation holding more weight then much else. The difference between a witch and an absolutist, is that the weight of the label does not merit death for one, but to another just the accusation throughout history was was enough to be killed by.

This history is part of the equation for your question of why christians largely aren't killing witches. But it is also a reason for me to caution you against your own thought on absolutists. It's a term without much merit and can be an accusation without anything more to go on. Instead blinding someone against another AND killing them like the accusation of being a witch was like for some time; instead of that the term as I see you use it is still a blind to you against someone and dismiss them easily, because of their absolutist personality, absolutist thinking, or their absolutist anything else.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 28 February 2019 4:32:40 AM
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It gets to the level that can be just as argued for witches. What is a witch? What is an absolutist? Is a witch someone who believes in magic and that kind of thing, and tries to practice it almost as a religion or a belief like Wicca. Or is a witch someone who practices witchcraft (however that is done), makes a deal with the devil (an accusation I've heard was part of the history of witch accusations), or even that they were cursed with whatever made them a witch, it wasn't asked for or sought after (another philosophy I've heard that was during witch trial times).

Go further and you have witches and wizards in books and fiction, characters that people fall in love with and defend the idea of magic and witches because those are parts of the stories they love to read and hear. So the question gets farther away for what is a witch. The issue with witches was that the accusation was a powerful thing regardless if there was anything to it, or if there could be anything to it. The same is true of the accusation of an absolutist. And for this I caution you on the term because it can be easily fit to be a description for anyone, as well as an accusation to blind your eyes and deafen your ears from what they actually say or do. (That's how all accusations are actually, so be careful that when you accuse someone of one thing that the accusation has enough weight behind it that it actually is something).

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 28 February 2019 4:35:56 AM
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Now for an example. You gave me Draco as an example of an absolutist. For an example of the scope of an accusation, I give you 1 Kings 21:1-16. Read it, so that you understand the scope of what I am saying. In that chapter it tells of an evil king who wanted a plot of land that another man owned. However after he asked the man for the land and he refused the king was sullen and angry. His wife at that time came up with a way to kill the other man while making it look like it was the other man at fault. And she did it through making an unsupportable accusation. The rest of the chapter is good too, and tells of the consequence that God gave the king through a prophet. 1 Kings 1-16 though is a tale to both be a point against the kind of accusations and labels that are too common in any debate or discussion, as well as a point of reasoning from the bible not being as you consider it. As an unthinking absolutist kind of way.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 28 February 2019 4:37:53 AM
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