All of which shows how important the senate will become. Unfortunately, the table cloth sized ballot paper encourages lazy, disinterested voters to vote above the line and leave preferences to politicians and parties. All the more reason to ignore the lower house and spend your time on wading through the senate paper, putting YOUR preferences where YOU, not the politicians, want them.

The chance of that happening? Pretty close to zero; and Australia will continue bumping down ladder to utter chaos.

Well genius, it's the birth child of our highly manipulated (dirty deals done in the dead of night) preferential voting system.

Just as one can't be half pregnant!

One can't have proportional voting tied to dubious preselection that eliminates joe average voters, further compounded by a mad hatter's preferential voting procedure that just complicates it beyond recognition as alleged proportional representation. But more like narcssistsic, self-idolising thieves dividing their ill-gotten-gains!?

I mean, "winning a seat" on the back of just 15 primary votes!?

And on the back of others tossed out on completely asinine eligiblty issues. And massively reinterperated contitutional "black letter law".
I rest rest my case.
Alan B.

Not too sure about that David.

With the ratbag way many d--heads & prima donnas on the cross bench are behaving & voting, it may not be too long before the public decide they are even worse than the majors members, & flock back to the majors.

The problem has proved to be, that even after serious attempts at understanding independents, it is almost impossible to know how they will vote on really important issues, let alone hundreds of minor bills.

David Leyonhjelm Why don't you at least answer people who reply to your posts, have never seen one reply from you.

Try at least spending one minute to acknowledge the people who take their time to comment on your thoughts.

One minute to reply would put you one level higher than the other no hope politicians.

Engage here, you may even get some to vote for you.

Amen, David.

How about a royal commission into how the two dinosaurs, Labor and Liberals, have come into being in the first place? Was it ever the will of ordinary people?