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Religious have no right to judgment on sexual orientation or gender identity : Comments

By Robin Banks, Anja Hilkemeijer and Rodney Croome, published 6/12/2018

This means, for example, that a Jewish school can turn away a teacher if they are Christian, but not just because they are gay, transgender, Aboriginal or in a wheelchair.

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Foxy,

"Religion does not play a part in who we
allow into this country. We have equality under
the law. This means that nobody is
treated differently from anybody else because
of their race, ethnicity or country of origin,
because of their age, gender, marital status,
or disability, or because of their political
or religious beliefs."

Rubbish,

"Failed to meet the Health requirements
The applicant did not meet the health requirements needed for the partner visa. All applicants for an Australian partner visa must meet certain health requirements for temporary entry to Australia.

These medical examinations and x-rays are conducted by specific panel doctors chosen by Immigration. If you do not do a health examination or do not meet the requirements for the exam, this could be the reason your visa was refused."

"Failed to meet the Character requirements
You may have been refused if you as the applicant do not pass the character requirements for the visa.

You may not pass the character test if:
...You have been associated with people or groups that Immigration suspects of being involved in criminal activities,..."
Your... general conduct is of concern to Immigration, or Immigration is concerned that while you are in Australia, there is a high risk that you may: be involved in criminal conduct, harass, molest, intimidate or stalk another person, vilify part of the Australian community, incite discord in the Australian community, or represent a danger to the Australian community."

See:http://onederland.com.au/why-australian-partner-visa-may-get-refused-or-denied/
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 8 December 2018 4:56:10 PM
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Is Mise,

Why don't you go back and read what I wrote
and try to understand what was being said.
It has nothing to do with the points you've raised.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 December 2018 5:12:05 PM
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cont'd ...

BTW: regarding religious holidays?

I've just read an article by Benjamin Law who sums
things up beautifully. He writes:

"I have no problem with celebrating and honouring
religious holidays. It respects the majority of
Australians who identify as Christian and it
educates the non-religious about world beliefs.
But why stop at Easter and Christmas? In our
cities especially - with their Muslim, Jewish,
Buddhist, and Hindu communities - wouldn't it
make sense to celebrate and learn about those
cultures as well?

Imagine what would happen in Australia, the land
of the public holiday - if we celebrated - Rosh Hashanah,
Yom Kippur, Islamic holidays of Eid al Adha and Eid al Fitr,
and the Hindu - Diwali. My guess? Suddenly more
tolerant Aussies!"
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 December 2018 5:36:53 PM
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Foxy,

I did read it and

"This means that nobody is
treated differently from anybody else because
of their race, ethnicity or country of origin,
because of their age, gender, marital status,
or DISABILITY [my upper case], or because of their political
or religious beliefs."

The truth is the Government can refuse entry to anyone at any time and can hide the reasons behind the cloak of "National Security".

Public holidays abound that are based on religious law; we should do away with them in a secular society.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 8 December 2018 6:17:47 PM
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Is Mise,

We're talking about religion. There are of course other criteria
that the government uses - such as criminal records, health,
character, and so on to assess someone's suitability. However
the topic of this discussion is religion and I am pleased
that you agree that in a secular society such as ours the
laws do need to be obeyed by everyone.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 December 2018 6:35:46 PM
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You do not dismiss ISSY, just on a flick of the wrist.
He eludes to very real points which, BTW, do relate to your points, just not the answers you wanted displayed.
My brother-in-law was high up in immigration and he would echo what ISSY has highlighted.
The dept does not just 'rubber stamp' passports, if you watch any of the 'Border Protection' series on TV, you would not have made the assertions you did and you would have agreed with ISSY.

Foxy, one of the reasons I say you or your comments are 'dangerous', is that you refuse to see the trees for the Forrest.
When those of us speak cautiously about Muslims, you appear to take offence.
The reason we speak cautiously is because this particular group (don't forget, we don't know who they are,) believe in, or follow a faith and, I say cult, that has openly, verbally, written and acted out the wishes of their founder, to kill and destroy the 'infidels'.
Now as much as you may want to turn the other cheek, so would we all, no-one wants to have to live in fear, but I'll tell you what, my fine naive little flower, what they preach is proven, what you assert is fiction.
So to put you back in the box again, we already celebrate all the religions that reside here in Auss, so don't go preaching some story about how wonderful it would be if we celebrated other religions.
We ALREADY DO!
NONE of them told us to remove OUR religious figures because they were offensive.
Offensive?
Why you insist on taking this deflective stance to make irrelevant points is beyond me.
We are pointing the finger at one, ONE mob, not all migrants.
Stop twisting people's words and the point they are trying to make.
You make yourself and your comments irrelevant by doing what you just did.
I think the reason I get my tits in a knot, is because, your writing this stuff gives people the wrong story or impression, and so they go away with the wrong idea.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 8 December 2018 6:55:28 PM
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