after years of incompetence and running up huge debt that Labour ran up, it shows what sort of sick mentality Everald has with his eager anticipation of Shorten/Tanya being elected causing further destruction on this nation. To describe the refusal to sell out to the Marxist wealth distribution con via gw and the refusal to promote the perverted promotion of homosexuality to kids as hatred shows how devoid of any sense he has. It is a good thing that the Liberals will collapse. Hopefully they will get rid of the self servers like Pyne and Bishop who obviously care zero about power prices and instead virtue signal about the gw fantasy to cover any sense of real character or decency. The hatred of Abbott by Everald along with other regressives is sickening. The man who stopped the massive flow of illegals and got rid of the fraudulent carbon tax did more for this country than 7 years of Rudd/Gillard/Rudd and Shorten. Everald's hatred certainly blinds him of any reality. Unfortunately he is not alone. No doubt he is also a lover of the abc with its feminist/Marxist platform. The sooner we get a Trump the better.

Australian politics has a definite cycle.

Liberals have always championed good economic
management - their policies centred around
increasing surplus. They did/do this by cutting
spending to essential services like hospitals,
schools, education, roads, rail, and infrastructure -
all the usual stuff. How was this damage fixed?
Labor gets elected.

Labor then spends to fix the damage
done. What happens next? Liberals get re-elected to
increase surplus. And so the cycle continues.

Round and round we go.

Vale Liberals forever?
Certainly - unless they change.

People support governments if they do things
that improve their lives. In Victoria the government
focused on the practical; upgrading hospitals,
new schools, the removal of level crossings, a huge
infrastructure program. People overlook many
failings if they see things happening. If governments
live their values, keep their promises, and gets things
done - they will get re-elected. At least in Victoria.

If the Liberal Party continues to be increasingly
divided along lines familiar in Canberra - where a
segment of the party is far to the right of the
electorate and if it continues to "play" to that
segment - it will alienate others.

The fear campaign in Victoria that crime was out of
control did not resonate well. The rhetoric did not
convince a more sophisticated electorate. People
rejected the "low road of fear and division."
They overwhelmingly endorsed a positive and
optimistic plan for the state.

Did the Liberal Party learn anything from this?
It doesn't appear so.
The "blame game" continues. Calls for resignations are
being demanded. If the Liberal
Party does not change its outmoded political tactics -
it's future certainly does not look very bright.

We need to remember that the Party under Menzies was not
the Party of today. It was a "broader Church." It was
"Liberal." It was not a right-wing conservative party.
It needs to go back to its original base.

Hmmm, is Everard Turnbull light ?
As soon as the blackouts start in a big way there will be an upheaval
in the whole political field.
There was a warning that a systemic collapse might occur.
The suggestion is that we could be without power for hours a day and
that it could go on for months.
That is probably an exaggeration.
However, even a lower level of failure would have wide economic affects.

It will only need one or two of the base load stations to close for
an extended period to prove that renewables cannot do the job.
If you spend time watching Queensland supporting the electricity
consumption of NSW, Victoria and Sth Aus on
http://tinyurl.com/y9n75xkf
you will see the extended periods of low wind & other from Sth Aus
which is generally supported by Qld and Tasmania.
Also note the price of the MW/hrs and it is usually that QLD has the
cheapest price.

Power stations have always had periods when they had to close for
maintenance or fault repair, however now that we have closed so many
of the base load stations a closure of one or two has dramatic effects.
This has given the greenies the opertunity to say that renewables are
more reliable than coal fired stations.

Two recent examples of how the Liberal party will be brought down from within:

Julia Banks moving to the cross bench and betraying the voters of Chisholm, who voted for the Liberal party, not little Ms. Banks herself who claims that naughty boys bullied her. She also claims that the party is run by the Right! If only that were true; the Liberals would be re-elected next year.

The “popular” Julie Bishop calling for bipartisan support with Labor on a ridiculous NEG. Her catty revenge after she found out that she was not actually popular at all.

The Left (posing as 'moderates') have buggered up the Liberal party, and they are now blaming the Right for it.

You display a resounding ignorance of the structure of the Australian government in your above comments, Everard. there was nothing illegal about the replacement of Abbot or Turnbull under our Westminster system wherein in our case to date, the PM is actually the prerogative of the party with the largest number seats in the lower house. The only people who vote for the Australian PM directly are those who cast their votes in his or her electorate; as such changes in PM between elections are up to the party in power, not the people as a whole. For this to change needs fundamental changes to the system and, in fact what you are advocating is a half-baked Presidential system. I have no problem with changing to a Presidential system if adequate debate about the pros and cons of such an action takes place but draw your attention to those third world countries that have taken up the Presidential system without adequate checks and balances. The downfall of the idea of a republic was, in my humble opinion, the result of not thinking through the problem adequately before putting the proposal to the public.
Your proposed solution, to me smacks of that lack, but I am happy to admit that I am nothing more than an old piece of colonial flotsam that refuses to go away, who spent his whole working life outside Australia and have only been resident back in this country for ten years, all of that in Townsville, no less.

Everready

Surely you go too far this time.

Nay, we majority of OLO commenters who are Liberals or way far right of that, are already depressed to contemplate 2 terms (6 years) of Labor rule from May 2019. We will not rest till Biblicly smite the forces of progress.

Everald when you say:

"They [that is We] hate the Labor Party and its Trade Unions. [We] also despise climate change advocates, gays, refugees, muslims, aborigines, welfare recipients and female Parliamentarians."

You may be right. But you are talking about us grizzled, old, male, majority who chatter on OLO Forums daily.

Yes we may pillory all that has happened since Menzies. But we're proud of slagging Leftist drinking women Lattes under every bed (not in them unfortunately) and whenever possible.

So there. I hope you feel ashamed Everready

You've hurt my feelings.