The SSM debate and plebiscite is over! And the recent Vic election result, a thundering endorsement for safe schools.

The only thing under threat here is the ability of bigots and homophobes merely masquerading as religious advocates, to discriminate against God-given, God created difference!

And to prove it, just wait for the spittle-flecked foaming insults to fly in my direction instead of reasoned debate on the part of folk, who routinely ignore or reinvent established evidence?

I and indeed most reasonable human beings are so over this rearguard action by religious fanatics and fundamentalists to say, if you don't like us our views and cultural norms?

Feel free to go elsewhere and to some stone age or trapped in time, medieval culture where your abhorrent views and your miserable selves/excuses for human beings, will be in good company.

As you continue to abuse your power and privilege on a minority, just because of a natural aberration of nature.
Alan B.

The sky is falling! the sky is falling!

Never mind that this bill will have no influence on anything. It will quietly disappear. And of course the greens have no real political power, especially at the federal level.

Why should the secular state pay for any "religious" outfit to "educate" its adult members whether they be future ministers, pastors, "missionaries", sunday school teachers or general members of the congregation?

Meanwhile one of the "team members" of the ICS is associated with this essentially dark fundamentalist outfit:
http://calvinistinternational.com

He also supports the USA Alliance Defending "Freedom" which is a right-wing christian fundamentalist outfit which could even be classified as a hate group

So I refer now to another completely stupid document - A Qld Education Dept Report into Religious Instruction released a document in 2017 which contained this language - Quote

"While not explicitly prohibited by the Legislation References in the Religious Instruction Policy. The Dept expect schools to have appropriate action.

If they are aware that students participating in religious instruction are "evangelising".

This could adversely effect the school's ability to provide a safe supportive and inclusive environment.

They define it as - Preaching or advocating a cause of religion with the object of making converts to Christianity.

They then give examples of "evangelising" -

Sharing xmas cards
Referring to Jesus birth.
Creating xmas tree decorations
Author - (traditionally given away to class mates)
and making beaded bracelets.
Author ( traditionally given away to class mates)

This report was intended for ("Primary School) standards.

At first reading of this report, I thought it was a joke, however, sadly it wasn't.

The idea that a primary school child with goodwill that comes at Christmas season can't hand a mate a card to say, I wish you a merry Christmas and happy new year, or a hand made glitter little star or dove for the xmas tree - is heartbreaking.

And this report is for outside the classroom - so what is occurring inside!

So to those "Government report makers" - with all their so-called policies of "oh our fragile kids" these are kids in school playgrounds, making life-long friends, they are not running around with knives - but a simple xmas card.

Get over it - let our kids be kids.

School is where our kids are supposed to receive instructions to "mould" our youth into critical, thought provoking, young people, able to proudly move from school environment into "life after school".

School is supposed to provide our next generation of workers/leaders with the "tools of life", both in knowledge of our diversity, culture and respect for all - both young and old

Glenn makes a number of important points in his overview of the Greens' proposed amendment, including his final para: " Australians of any faith or none must be allowed to make their choices and live their lives in accordance with their beliefs and values, inside or outside religious contexts."

This exhortation falls short of explaining why religion should play any role at all in our behaviour.

My opinion is that for millennia, humans have relied on a belief system in which some supreme being directs the thinking and actions of persons, rather than accepting the fact that spirituality guides moral and ethical behaviour through reason and awareness of the effect of thoughts, speech and action.

We are witnessing more examples of the futility of conforming to the dogma and implied wishes of some imagined superpower; so much needless argument and debate is taking place over something which really has no relevance in the scheme of things.

The Sex Discrimination Act serves to reinforce some segments of society's inability to accept sexual understanding in a balanced, reasoned way.
It is more a vehicle for those who profess some kind of religious, hierarchical authority as the reason to attempt to control the thinking and behaviour of their gullible followers.

And don't think this Greens' initiative will handicap the ability

of High Church Diocese to protect the abilities of Church

Schoolmasters, Priests, Monks and Chaplains in little children.

A morality exemption protected by Churches, Popes, Cardianls, etc

for centuries.

While defending/advocating the actions of the Alliance Defending "Freedom" the same chap also stated that the "law" as given/defined by his tribalistic cultic "deity" should always considered to be superior to or trump any and all of the laws as defined and put in place by the secular state.

Someone once prophetically warned us that when fascism (inevitably) comes to Amerika it will be heralded by self-righteous flag waving zealots loudly invoking "freedom", while simultaneously carrying bibles and crucifixes in the other.