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By Don Aitkin, published 26/10/2018Of course, the climate system is driven by the sun, but even if the solar forcing were constant, the climate would still vary.
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Posted by runner, Sunday, 28 October 2018 9:11:13 PM
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So then, what would happen if the present Govt. said "ok, let's get serious & tackle climate change".
Firstly, we'll get 50% of the unnecessary cars off the road, cut all private home air conditioning, ban motor racing, delay flights until the planes are fully booked, stop producing frivolous goods, reduce the numbers of cattle, stop producing petroleum based goods etc etc. Now, what do most of you think the chances of the Govt would be to get elected if they were to indeed start tackling climate change by the removal of the above mentioned top pollutants ? Posted by individual, Monday, 29 October 2018 6:10:16 AM
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A video where Dr Jennifer Francis is being interviewed: http://youtu.be/FaqeQ_IDg-Y runner Neither you or runner have produced any facts. Anybody who takes an interest in the Arctic, knows that from season to season there are variations in snow and ice cover. Downhill skiers know that as temperatures warm snow carries more moisture and takes up more volume. The mistake in the reference is that a conclusion is drawn from the particular and generating that to the general. Parts of the Arctic Ocean were ice free at the same time which is unusual. The total for the whole of the Artic Ocean for maximum extent of sea ice for the last few years has been very low, while the minimum continues to be low and is likewise variable from year to year. March of Extent in million square kilometers 2015 14.54 2016 14.52 2017 14.42 2018 14.48 http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2017/09/arctic-sea-ice-at-minimum-extent-2/ As a suggested the possibility in the NSIDC reference of sea ice extent lowering did happen. A graph is also provided in the reference of the minimum extent in Antarctica. No lies have been uncovered, what is shown though is a logical fallacy by your reference, runner. Scientists talk about extreme weather being created through climate change, it is exactly what your reference displays when scrolling other sections of the reference. Incidentally, it has been predicted that 2018 might be the 4th warmest year recorded globally. There are Regional variations, as there have always been, but the aggregate tells the story. Posted by ant, Monday, 29 October 2018 6:34:10 AM
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On Individuals point.
That's an intriguing supposition individual… Already the first on the list is well underway. Remove 50% of vehicles from our roads. The target is old vehicles. The cost to the poor of Climate Change innovations:- (road transport). Past innovations:- 1. Cash for clunkers = Gillard 2. Mandating ethanol in fuels. =Gillard. Near future innovations: 1. Mandating electric (hybrid) vehicles. 2. Zero road deaths campaign in all states. ((Underway). This one is insidious). 3. Taxation increases. (Read tolls). Fuel excise increases. Double demerit fines. 4. Reducing subsidies to pensioners. Some outliers:- Government ignorance of cost of living pressures. (Walk ya bastards). There is mounting pressure on families to abandon their vehicles. Posted by diver dan, Monday, 29 October 2018 7:20:35 AM
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From your last post individual, it sounds as if you might actually believe that reducing CO2 would have more than the most minute effect of the temperature of the planet.
Just to look at your first point, reducing unnecessary cars. I have 3 cars. 2 of them I suppose could be considered unnecessary. However even despite my obvious brilliance, I can still only drive one car at a time. In a busy year those unnecessary cars will do perhaps 4,000 kilometres between them. If I did not have them, that's an extra 4,000 kilometres my shopping trolley would have to do. After our last winter, any activity that can warm the planet is a good one. Note to self, drive my cars more often. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 29 October 2018 11:10:57 AM
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If the gullible/deceivers really believed in the gw rubbish they espouse, they would have teleconferences instead of lovefest in CopenHagen, Paris and wherever the next money wasting exercise is held. No but they will continue to fly the globe, virtue signal and burn up more co2 than the average man. They make many church hypocrites look tame.
Posted by runner, Monday, 29 October 2018 12:06:35 PM
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