How satisfying it must be for these climate 'scientist' to live in a world of lies.

runner

It is amazing how the sun revolves around the Earth, and the Earth is flat. These views were held during the Dark Age. Presumably, those views held in the Dark Ages were held by faith. Brave scientists risked death through creating heresy by showing these faith views were wrong.

After the huge extinction of 252 million years ago, many new life forms subsequently developed. There were chemical changes in Oceans, and the atmospheric gases changed during the huge extinction. Geologists, Chemists, Paleontologists and Biologists etc have used the artefacts left in past epochs to understand what had happened. In other words they have use objective data to reach their conclusions.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X07000842

It is possible to argue from a faith point of view that science is wrong; but, faith does not rely on objective proof. Faith relies on strong beliefs.

Without objective evidence faith doesn't dent the data created by climate scientists, or other scientists.

Ant: the Bible advises, cast ye not pearls (wisdom) before swine. The fact that you are trying to have an objective conversation with runner backed by mountains of objective evidence, evidence this person could seemingly verify with their own eyes!

But will forever refuse to do so given that would then cause the house of cards that is brainwashed from birth belief to tumble and fall and leave this person actually accountable to higher authority for the harm they've done? Or caused? Or could've prevented?

If proven substantive evidence proves you are wrong? Contributors like runner, I believe, will simply shut their eyes and refuse to ever look. There are none so blind etc. And inasmuch as you do unto the least among you, you also do unto me. Clearly, these people have done or caused plenty through the unremitting power of ignorance and virtual hate speech?

The madman who killed 11 people, in my Father's house, this very morning for the crime of being Jewish, from the same mould of twisted thinking and hate, due solely to the fact of inculcated false belief?

Quoting chapters/verse from some ancient book only proves, these were the beliefs of the writers, not whether or not they are factual!

Richard Bramston tells a story, where he took a highly placed official from the flat earth society on a low orbit space flight so he could see with his very own eyes a round earth.

Upon landing, Sir Richard asked, Well, what do you think now? And here I paraphrase, the official replied, the graphics were almost tue to life and the special effects very realistic.

And just like runner, when confronted by credible objective evidence, refuse to ever consider they could be following a false doctrine. runner will retreat as he always just into spouting, I am the lord and the way, and only those who follow JC will be saved. Totally wasted pearls before swine, Ant?
Alan B.

G'day Alan B

I realise that runner has a closed mind, so I'm directing my comments at casual readers who might not make comments. here.
When there are something like 12,000 studies published per year in peer reviewed journals, I don't think the few words put out by runner or Don Aitkin make any dent. Runner relies on religion, while Don Aitkin relies on maverick scientists.
Earlier, I referenced Katherine Hayhoe, a devout Christian, who assessed 38 studies presented by skeptical scientists over a decade. That would seem to be about the total number of skeptical papers published when taking into account Powell et al.

10 facts which indicate that Human Induced Global Warming is a crock.

1. The first Global Warming conference held in Europe, rather embarrassingly occurred during one of the worst recorded snow storms in European history.
2. The Himalayan glaciers did not melt.
3. Climategate, where the "scientists" were caught admitting that the worldwide temperatures were showing no change, and saying that this crucial fact should be covered up.
4. The same thing happening in Australia where "scientists" from the weather bureau were found to have "adjusted" 100 year old nationwide historical temperature statistics .
5. The "ship of fools", who were Australian climate scientists, who went to Antarctica by ship to prove that Antarctic ice was disappearing, and got stuck in a new ice sheet that had not been there before.
6. Although "scientists" claim that sea levels would rise between 3 meters to 30 meters by 2100 (which would drown half the world), coastal real estate prices are not plummeting anywhere. This seems to indicate that banks and investment organizations (the really smart guys) know it is complete B.S.
7. Most of the USA, including southern states, blanketed in snow last year.
8. The original idea of Human Induced Global Warming is on so much shaky scientific ground, that even the UN has exorcised the "Human Induced" bit from it's title and now just calls it "Global Warming."
9. The persecution of academics and even their sacking for not towing the Global Warming party line. (Blomberg)
10. The general shift in the tone of the media from complete advocacy of global warming to a more measured position, as the penny drops, that just like with the Millenium Bug and Peak Oil, they have once again been taken in by charlatans and destroyed their own credibility.

Lego

You haven't provided any references for your points

1. Don't confuse weather with climate, Attribution is a fairly recent development where scientists are able to show the human finger print.
2 The Himalayan glaciers are melting, nobody has suggested they would be gone in a short time frame. As with glaciers elsewhere, there are then and now type photos.
3 There have been a number of Reviews of "Climategate" including one by the British Parliament, no problems found.
4 Temperature please provide your rigid evidence.
5"The ship of fools" .. people are not able to predict all matters that happen in inhospitable areas ..Admirals in own bathtub.
6 Periodic flooding in Miami, people have been warned in Maine about owning low lying property . Coastal erosion has been experienced in a number of areas, caused by sea level rise and storm surges.
7 Scientists talk about climate change as weather patterns are becoming eratic. Google Dr Jennifer Francis.
8 Have you seen the last IPCC Report published a few weeks ago?
9 Harassment cuts both ways, climate sciencists complain about death threats.
10 You must read the Murdoch press or watch sky "news".

Your points have been debunked a number of times, you have not provided any evidence.
The latest IPCC Report provide quite a stern warning about about climate change.
Please provide references.

IPCC Report:

http://www.ipcc.ch/report/sr15/?fbclid=IwAR3rkc-HZ85SUh8kLQEC4WfkTtMtNr4uvbet0Ec76AcSXnzp9dS3L8oRhfE