In every upcoming election, state/Federal, every candidate must be asked to state his or her position, relative to climate change and nuclear power? And if unable to commit to either as a first-term first order of priority!? And back their evocations with positive action!

Needs to be disendorsed or put at the bottom of the ballot paper, regardless of political allegiance.

Furthermore, we need to limit lobbyist's access to politicians and increase the length of their post politic retirement before they are employed by this or that entity or foreign investor as lobbyists with the ear of the current government?

Or indeed, any future government, if the party providing the pay packet, salary or generous commission is a foreign-owned/controlled or foreign-based entity!

If I had my druthers? Similar appointments would be limited to national companies, HQ'ed here!

National interest needs to be backed by patriotic, national allegiance, that can neither be bought or sold!

Particularly, when that national interest and our freedom to choose, has been bought and paid for with the blood sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of ANZACS!

Lastly, the nuclear option cannot be drowned out in this or that talk show by the selection of candidates, whose only alternative to coal is renewables.

Or where any attempt to raise the topic of nuclear as part of the discussion has the censoring moderater coughing, humming and harring, switching to another topic? And these are the same folk who filter all public knowledge!?

UNDERSTAND YET WHERE THE REAL PROBLEM LIES!?
Alan B.

My previous post has a mathematical error. It actually takes 40 times as much energy to melt the aforementioned entities, so whilst they are being thawed out we can expect a fairly long time during which the overall rate of warming slows down. Once the permafrost in the Arctic really starts to melt and the extreme effects of the liberated methane start to take effect, it will probably be much too late to do anything.
David

Hop...Looking out the hanger door, sun rising over the black running rivers of tar.
Straining his eyes to see a stooped figure of Karen, (Phelps that is), bent over in an embrace of a shovel at the end of Hops runway, as she plants the first rose bush for the day, in memory of lost sea gulls; dead by the millions from heat stroke.

He begins the long process now of winding up the new rubber band, replacing the fossil fuel motor once so revered, which will begin his new day, atmospheric cooling with the big propeller, subsidised with a taxpayer dollar subsidy.

Hop is startled by the noise of an unwinding rubber band of another plane, as it zooms over the hanger, dipping its wing in salute: Look, he shouts, its Noddy and Big Ears in their shiney and new tax payer subsidised atmospheric cooling aeroplane, Facebook logo gleaming, and all painted out in the colours of the rainbow, just for Karen.

This completes the global warming serial for today. The ABC are strapped for time to squeeze it into a slot between the bad PR for the LNP losers, and educating the masses unable to understand the supreme importance global warming is.

And to the thousands of sacrificial poor, disconnected from the coal fired power grid, assisting greatly in reducing Australia's reliance on filthy coal, up yours!

VK3AUU,

You need to pay more attention. “Abbott and his idiot mates” accept that climate change is as real as it has always been for thousands of years; they just don't accept the lie that it is man-made.

Guess that makes you the idiot.

How then do they explain the slow but accelerating increase in the amount of CO2 in the earths atmosphere which corresponds with the beginning of the industrial revolution and which is forever increasing as we pump more CO2 out of our coal and gas fired energy producers.
You have joined them as another idiot. It takes one to know one. I am one because I was my time trying to teach you something of the mechanics of the problem.
David

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The Wentworth by-election went well didn’t it; a repudiation of the views held by Abbott and his mates. Climate has always changed, there is no argument about that.

One view that could be held is that millions of years ago jets left contrails in the atmosphere, millions upon millions of cars were pushing emissions into the atmosphere, and coal fired power stations were voiding greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. That is not a sustainable argument; but, is my way of highlighting that just venturing a view that climate was changing in the past, does not mean it had the same reasons as what is happening now. The but is, paleo scientific research shows an increase and decrease in the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere during those different epochs.

In the past, on this site, I have referenced Dr Burger, a Geologist, who showed how a thin seam of coal was ignited 252 million years ago. 252 million years ago was a time when nearly all life forms were exterminated. At that time CO2 was at a high level, ocean acidification was severe, and temperatures were high; abrupt change happened. Dr Burger found appropriate artefacts to sustain his arguments and replicated and extended previous research.

Do you tell people they are eating an apple when really it is an orange?
Virtually the question the video asks.

https://youtu.be/H5kejSYPD7U