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Australia's climate policy paralysis is becoming electoral poison : Comments

By Neneh Darwin, published 16/10/2018

Current polling indicates the Liberal Party could be facing it's first electoral loss in the the seat in 60 years – and climate change inaction is the number one issue in the minds of voters.

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Neneh is right. pre-polls do suggest the climate change is in the fore front of concerns in Wentworth. It is almost funny to suggest that the greens push climate change as a religion .. if that is the case then the religion formed more than a century before any green parties formed. Fourier in the 1820s created a starting point for the science of climate change, later Eunice Foote and John Tyndall were involved with experimentation with CO2 in the 1850s.

Those who deny the science provide many opinions, but, those opinions are not backed by any science. Fossil fuels take multiple millions of years to be created; we expel that sequestered carbon/CO2 into the atmosphere in a few moments when considering geological time.

The latest IPCC Report on 1.5C increase in temperature used 6,000 pieces of research reviewed by 91 climate scientists. The sheer volume of research being created is beyond the capacity of anybody to keep up with. Powell et al have suggested that there are something like 12,000 research articles published in peer reviewed journals on a yearly basis.
Periodically I have provided mega Science Reports comprising hundreds of pages and referenced by hundreds of referenced by hundreds of references. There has only ever been facile commentary provided by deniers.

There are no mega Reports that deniers can provide, that is the challenge I once again request.

An example:

https://science2017.globalchange.go
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:31:34 AM
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Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:43:53 AM
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Diver Dan

Climate change is definitely happening ... landlocked glaciers are melting, grounding lines for glaciers/icesheets in Antartica and Greenland are moving in the wrong direction, where communities have relied on water resources from glaciers water shortages have happened.
Permafrost is thawing, shown by ponds being created and higher vegetation forming. These matters are related to temperature increasing.

Marine waters are warming displayed by water bombs being a constant source of record flooding. That is temperature related.

The costs created already are in the vicinity of a billion dollars or more for individual storms. When I was a young adult 50 years ago there was talk of the potential impacts of climate change, we are witnessing those impacts.
The huge Insurance Company Munich Re provides much information in relation to the costs of extreme events.
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 12:04:02 PM
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We have used coal exports to replace the manufacturing sector we used to have! And down to some of the most asinine short-term thinking and cowardly craven policies ever created by cringing spittle licks who've handed control, to either foreign-based coal barons or a union movement that now only represents 15% of the workforce?

These alleged leaders have been too busy shoring up their own political prospects to actually see what they were creating, be it Howard wasting mining booms one and two, which instead of giving it away, should have used both to build a massive sovereign wealth fund that would ensure our continuing prosperity into an uncertain future.

Time to get serious on climate change and carbon-free nuclear energy, and use that and the 2 cents per KwH it'd give the market. To resuscitate and rebuild our abandoned manufacturing sector. Wentworth could help this outcome by placing a member of the opposition in that seat? That in effect would force an earlier general election than the government and the coal lobby they would seem to be serving? Want?

And replace them with a government reliant on the independent cross benches or a parliament of independents not wedded to the coal industry. And the only way to remove that industries vice-like grip on the testicles of our ultra compliant pollies?

What we earn from exporting rock could be completely replaced by the export of CARBON FREE electrical energy to Asia via undersea cables and very high voltage transmission. And forever from power, we'd get for virtually free if we had leaders able to use the brains they were born with for the country before all else!

Read my earlier comments on nuclear energy.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 16 October 2018 12:08:42 PM
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ant.

Is this the link you intended, as your suggest link is a non worker?

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 12:14:41 PM
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diver -
You appear to be saying you think Hewson should put party before country - or possibly even before planet!

The Libs were not cash cows for Hewson - he'd have made far more if he'd stayed in his job as a merchant banker rather than going into politics. With the benefit of hindsight, I think most people will agree he should have.

Not that the above should have made any difference at all. Keeping quiet for financial gain (or even financial gratitude) is a sign of corruption. You may be sufficiently morally deficient to admire it, but I'm glad that Hewson used his "God-given right to rat on the Liberal Party" (aka free speech).

Of course there's nothing new about former Liberal Party leaders attacking their old party. Fraser has a track record of it, and more recently Tony Abbott didn't even wait till he was out of parliament before doing so.

If you're so concerned about the gap between the haves and have nots, why aren't you advocating concessional loans for rooftop solar?

As for the Nats, I'm glad they purged themselves of neo nazis. Kudos to the ABC for exposing the problem.
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 12:24:11 PM
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